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used to be a big time roadie bitd
today, I only take road as short as possible
to get to MUP or trail. if it has a sidewalk I'll ride that.
if it has a decent bike lane I'll ride that, but these are rare
 
I thought there was a refillable one you could pump up? Lights work well at night in the winter here but ineffective in the day.
The Air Zound is the one you pump up.
Street bicycle lights usually have some kind of textured plastic lens over the bulb. Offroad lights have the bare LED behind clear glass. You have to aim them down to avoid blinding drivers at night, but they are much more visible during the day. Also they tend to be crash resistant. I run the older fast strobe Niteriders on my Ebike because it looks like it's going fast (because sometimes it is) On a pedal bike it doesn't matter as much.
Some places outlawed the fast strobes because of concerns about triggering epilepsy. That's why the new ones are slower.
 
Pedal bikers can be very unpredictable and often cut across to shorten their rides making life tough on drivers so I try to be as careful as possible to be visible and show intent in my actions.
That being said, I don't know how people do it on motorbikes. Even in a straight line they have distracted, aggressive and senseless drivers to constantly deal with.
Its one of those "it's not if, it's when" type situations.
 
The Air Zound is the one you pump up.
Street bicycle lights usually have some kind of textured plastic lens over the bulb. Offroad lights have the bare LED behind clear glass. You have to aim them down to avoid blinding drivers at night, but they are much more visible during the day. Also they tend to be crash resistant. I run the older fast strobe Niteriders on my Ebike because it looks like it's going fast (because sometimes it is) On a pedal bike it doesn't matter as much.
Some places outlawed the fast strobes because of concerns about triggering epilepsy. That's why the new ones are slower.
The brightest light in the world makes no difference in the day when approaching an intersection or driveway entrance and a car pulls out without stopping/checking and the driver is looking the opposite way…but an air horn would let them know. At night in the winter the lights work great to get the attention of drivers. My fav is the people that stop in the crosswalk. Then my 6000 lumens is going straight ahead.
 
Cagers suck. After years of commuting and road riding I gave up on it. I've had multiple friends who were hit by car, and multiple friends of friends killed by car. So many inattentive drivers or just outright assholes out there behind the wheel. It just isn't fun for me anymore. That being said, I will use the occasional bit of paved road to connect up routes.

I live 200 meters from singletrack. If I lived elsewhere, I might still try to make the road riding work...
 
Side note: have you noticed an increasing trend where drivers signal turns AS they are turning? I started noticing this many years back in silicon valley, but now I also regularly see it where I live in Oregon and Washington.
Not especially. Either they use it or they don't. What I DO see a lot of are people who got in the wrong lane and instead of following through and then figuring out how to correct their mistake without causing an incident instead panic and try to change lanes in the middle of an intersection. One spot near me where this happens a LOT is at least in part because the lane markings are minimal and hard to see when traffic is heavy and backed up. so unless you know the spot, you are going to commit to a lane before you see the markings. there are a few dbs who purposely use the other lane when the correct one is backed up, with the intent to cut people off in the intersection. the DOT is doing some work at on the freeway entrance/exit right now and I hope that they mark everything better once they've made the changes they're working on.

Some places outlawed the fast strobes because of concerns about triggering epilepsy. That's why the new ones are slower.
back when I commuted by bike regularly, I used an old Magicshine headlamp that had a fast strobe. Fast strobe is the mode I'd use in the daytime. On that one, the strobe looked more like a flicker or oscillation in brightness if you looked at it head-on. IMO, not so problematic. but noticeable during daylight. at night, the brightness level I used depended on what I was riding on. dimmest setting if on a MUP or a dark country road. I'd run it brighter if there was more ambient light (streetlights, businesses alongside the road with signs, lit parking lots, etc).
 
I live out in rural farmland. You'd think the mostly empty roads would be safe, but nope. After the 3rd riding acquaintance of mine was killed, I just gave it up. All the fun (and my cavalier attitude about the possibilities) was replaced by dreadful anxiety. I was an avid road biker and fair-weather commuter for decades, but my days of tempting fate are over.
 
100%. When attempting to merge on a highway they will leave it off till no one is letting them in and THEN turn it on at tbe lat possible moment. I figure of its not on, they dont want to merge.
WTF? Where else are they going to go? If their signal isn’t on, are you going to intentionally not help them (e.g., moving to the left lane)?
 
I've posted a lot on here about how we have extra wide golf cart/bike lanes in the Coachella Valley. Road riding here is one of the better places to do it. I even do it at night because the lights are so good now and I may not see a car for several miles on some nights. With that said, I would not ride anywhere where there is not at least a two-foot shoulder to the right of the white line.

I used to ride the infamous Highway 74 a couple of days a week. It is a steep and narrow mountain road. It had a wider shoulder and less traffic many years ago, but they have pushed the white line all the way to the edge of the road and traffic is probably 10 times greater now. You put so many people in danger on a busy narrow mountain road because people are not ready for you to be around the blind corner. My road racing buddies still ride it because it is "their right", but what percent of drivers would you trust to be able to make a split-second decision? Most drivers are just not capable. I'm not selfish enough to think that it is my right to put drivers in danger. I no longer ride the highway.

I think the biggest problem though is lack of patience and respect. It just doesn't exist in the general population in most places anymore. Most people are self-centered and not real good about sharing or waiting. Add to this the distracted and compromised drivers, and road riding is a big crap shoot. It doesn't matter whose fault it is when you are dead. One of my riding friends was killed by a drunk illegal just before dawn and the driver split the scene. Fortunately, he was dumb enough to tell an ex-girlfriend that turned him in several years later. Do everything you can to ride the road only where it is safe for everyone. As our population continues to get lazier and less patient, drivers will hate us even more. Be smart and do everything you can to keep everyone safe and to keep from putting a target on your back. I use flashing lights front and rear in both day and night and I also always wear neon yellow clothing. I think the yellow clothing is even more effective than the lights.
 
WTF? Where else are they going to go? If their signal isn’t on, are you going to intentionally not help them (e.g., moving to the left lane)?
Hell no
 
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Speaking of knuckleheads, of course this video shows up in my YouTube feed today. Big stupid trucks for big stupid guys:


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Road cyclists travel at about a third the speed of traffic. So, we get to see about three times the amount bad driving as the average driver moving along with traffic. My social science background has me constantly categorizing who the worst drivers are. Not only is the Super Douchey pickup truck, like this one above, one of the widest non-semi vehicles on the road, their drivers have earned this name that I have given them. I have seen more super duty style trucks buzz me and be rude to other drivers than any other type of vehicle. Their drivers often think they are badass kings of road. It’s just a mentality that comes with certain vehicles. The average super duty truck driver thinks they are a boss, even if they aren’t, like the guy above. I had a Super Douchey run an oncoming car off of the road going around me when he could have waited no more than three seconds to pass me with no problems.
The vehicle that is quickly growing in number and their drivers often think they are too important to signal is the Teslas. Douchelas, as I now like to call them. I see these cut off drivers constantly. I got the pleasure of seeing one rear end another weaving in and out of heavy traffic recently. Fortunately no one was hurt, but it was funny as hell to see the look on the guy’s face when Karma caught up with him.
 
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Speaking of knuckleheads, of course this video shows up in my YouTube feed today. Big stupid trucks for big stupid guys:


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Well at least Temu Stone Cold Steven Austin got taken down a peg, though if he doesn't lose his license it probably won't be long before he's at it again. I wonder how many more young women he's terrorised on the road.
 
Interested to read about your experiences of commuting. What’s the cycling infrastructure like where you live? What are drivers’ attitudes towards cyclists like?... Both incidents on a 15 minute ride and it’s not the first time. I don’t know how people commute on bikes....
I live and commute in Athens, Greece. If you've ever visited you'll know that nothing here was designed for any puprose, let alone commuting by bike. There is one major bikepath that takes you from the seafront to the city center and that's about it. There are other minor bikepath networks scattered around that are poorly designed and don't connect to anything at all.

I'm in a privileged position as the aforementioned bike path largely coincides with my commuting route. I still have to ride on the road among traffic in about 30% of the distance though, more if I'm running errands. Drivers can be rude, arrogant, distracted, but I've also been pleasantly surprised by people being friendly and respectful. I do my best to keep myself safe, try to scan the road ahead and predict other vehicles' moves. I've had a couple of close calls that could have been avoided completely if I had been riding more defensively.

At this point I can't imagine myself going back to public transport or taking the car. The few times I have to do it it feels very restrictive and it doesn't even save me any time.
 
I've posted some stuff about urban riding. But most of my traffic riding has to do with crossing major roads to get to a side street or jogging trail to get where I'm going. I've even fine tuned my route to avoid low spots in the road that fill up with water when it rains. Once it was dry going into town, and under water coming back at night. Side streets with speed bumps and stop signs don't bother me. Nobody ever got run over by a speed bump.
 
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