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#761 ·
herr.kominek said:
I understand that the production of your crown is technically more complex, and for that reason, I am willing to tolerate minor imperfections to some extent. However, what I can no longer accept is a defect on the outer tube – it is merely a turned part. I have many years of experience in mold manufacturing for the glass and aerospace industries, and in these fields, such an argument would not be acceptable.

I hope you will have the opportunity to personally examine products from the Intend brand – perhaps then you will better understand my perspective on workmanship quality.

That said, I truly admire your decision to embark on the development and production of the 9.1 model. It’s a great achievement, and I thank you for giving us the option to choose.

To share something more positive – during today’s ride, the fork’s sensitivity to small bumps finally improved. Before the ride, I adjusted the settings: I set the pneumatic bottom-out to 30 psi (the recommendation was 40 psi), opened the HSC and LSC by one click each, and closed the rebound by two clicks. I’ve now ridden over 200 km, and I’m starting to be satisfied with the small-bump compliance.

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Not sure I understand you commenting at all on performance until you adjust the settings which are there for that reason. Makes zero sense.

I understand your finish issues. I bet Darren will take care of your issues.
 
#762 ·
Etney said:
Not sure what I will go with, leaning towards push still, would like to try one, and I also love their solution for a fender. Will ride this bike a lot during the winter season here in northern europe, and a fender is a must then.

Decisions decisions...
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Don't forget to order your fender as it's sold separately. That's twice in one day.....best put my armor on.
 
#763 ·
Etney said:
Hi Darren! (I assume its you behind the account still)

I also sent you guys an email, but understandable if it takes some time to answer.

But might as well ask you here right now. Any ETA on when the forks/parts will be back in stock? I am an European customer, so dont know if MRC Trading maybe has some inventory - But your American site says out of stock.

I am inbetween intend and push right now. But both of you have stuff not in stock, so it might just be who gets it back in stock the fastest, because I have a frameset just waiting for suspension.

And also now when you mentioned it - The cerakoted parts. How resistant is that towards chemicals etc? If my bike is REALLY dirty, I sometimes do a pre-soak on the bike with a strongly diluted mix of alkaline degreaser, it makes the mud super easy to wash off. But I know some anodized parts can get stained from it - Not sure about Cerakoted parts?

Other than that I only use mild bike specific soap etc - Which I've never had issues with.
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Again, my apologies for the delays in response from our sales team. We're a bit overwhelmed at the moment with requests but are getting on top of the workload.

I'm guessing that globally, everyone is out of stock of our 9.1 forks as we continue to struggle to keep up with demand. We are in the process of completing a very large production cycle that should be ready by the end of the month. We have put a signup on the 9.1 product page of our website that not only works for buying from us, but also can be used for coordinating with one of our global partners for those outside the USA like yourself.

While I can't speak to the specific chemical that you're using to wash your bike, I can say that the Cerakote is more durable than anodizing, which is partly why we use it. You might be able to find more specific information here in regards to what you're using and how it might interact: Cerakote.com - Global Leader in Thin-Film Ceramic Coatings | Cerakote
 
#764 ·
herr.kominek said:
My post may have come across as critical – I was simply describing my personal experience. On the other hand, I have to say the fork impressed me, and I would recommend buying it.
You can get one here at an attractive price:

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I'll be the first to say that I always value and appreciate rider feedback on our products and experiences, and don't take them critically. It's how we become a better company.
 
#766 ·
TheAngryMonkey said:
Who can I reach out to for help then? The fork is only 6 months old with just over 50 hours of use. I shouldn't have to replace the seals every 50 hours or less and I expect more from a hand-built product at this price.
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I just messaged you through our system. 100% on me with this one. I often try to jump in to help out our sales team when demand skyrockets with the inbox, and then get pulled in another direction. I'm pretty good about reassigning the tickets for someone to take over, but in this case dropped the ball.
 
#767 ·
I’ve seen a couple reviews on here that I find confusing - mainly that Intend has better small bump compliance. I’m curious because in theory (in my head), an inverted coil fork should be the smoothest, plushest thing around, yet that’s not what I’m reading.

I’m mostly curious about people’s sag at the prescribed spring rates. I have two Smashpots - one on a turbo Levo and the other on a Transition Sentinel both at 160 mm, and I’m 168 lbs. I have a 35 lbs spring on my Sentinel (22% sag) and 40 lbs on the Turbo Levo (20.5% sag), and I love them, but on Push’s site, they’d have me on a 45 lbs spring on the acoustic, and probably a 50 lbs spring on the e-bike.

I may prefer a soft spring, but I’m curious if people have messed around with different spring weights to enhance “plushness”.
 
#768 ·
Darren will probably chime in on the spring weights.

As far as small bump compliance, we’ll take that with a grain of salt. Unfortunately most people have zero idea of what they are talking about when it comes to performance - either direction.

You have extensive knowledge and experience so I think you will be a valuable read if you get a Push fork. You know the value or the adjusters and understand the settings.
 
#770 ·
johnsogr said:
I’ve seen a couple reviews on here that I find confusing - mainly that Intend has better small bump compliance. I’m curious because in theory (in my head), an inverted coil fork should be the smoothest, plushest thing around, yet that’s not what I’m reading.

I’m mostly curious about people’s sag at the prescribed spring rates. I have two Smashpots - one on a turbo Levo and the other on a Transition Sentinel both at 160 mm, and I’m 168 lbs. I have a 35 lbs spring on my Sentinel (22% sag) and 40 lbs on the Turbo Levo (20.5% sag), and I love them, but on Push’s site, they’d have me on a 45 lbs spring on the acoustic, and probably a 50 lbs spring on the e-bike.

I may prefer a soft spring, but I’m curious if people have messed around with different spring weights to enhance “plushness”.
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Totally take this single data point with a grain of salt...

I tend to go a spring rate down on coil forks...pushes (!) glasses up...YMMV, but for my terrain, riding style, etc I like a more active suspension and utilizing the damper to control more of the movement.

Now, I don't size down a spring rate 100 percent of the time but most times (including coil shocks) and get a feel for if things feel a little too loosey goosey, pretty good, etc.

I also don't pay too much mind to sag as long as it isn't excessive like 30-40 percent on the fork or zero sag, if it feels good during the ride and the actual sag when I can be arsed to check it is 10-15 percent or 18.33 percent, or whatever, I'm fine with that.

Disclaimer - that is at 190 pounds in central Arizona, not Johnny Hucker while pounding (your favorite energy drinks), on 170mm enduro/all mountain type bikes in varied but mostly rock filled terrain. Conditions and exclusions may apply, not applicable in all 50 US states and 10 Canadian provinces, may cause headaches, double vision, and shortness of breath, see your dealer and doctor for details
 
#771 · (Edited)
It's really difficult IME to discern what people mean by "small bump" and their various descriptions of fork behavior. Hitting a ramp after a drop where I need good support it should be engaging a lot of LSC (we've had this discussion before) and smashing through a choppy root section at full speed should be engaging lots of HSC, the fork simply has to move up and down very fast for the sharper-edged hits. That is typically called "small bump", but it's difficult to describe the actual bump as "small".

A lot of times at lower speed the fork may be moving freely because of the low-speed bleed, so it seems like it has great "small bump" on sharp edged stuff at slow speed, till you start going faster and the LSC is now forcing oil through the HSC and the HSC is either too restrictive or heavy. I like describing what circuit is more engaged, but there are plenty of "blended" situations.

If the person is saying that the Push fork does better at big choppy roots, braking bumps and gnar-chunk at speed, I'd be inclined to say it's got better "small bump", but I hate that term. It sounds to me like they are saying the Intend has more low speed bleed and lighter damping, so more sensitivity at low speed...Properly damped stuff can feel a bit "heavily damped" and not the most sensitive at low speed IME. Things like inverted with lubrication and coil springs help a lot, but it can still feel more damped than people are sometimes used to, but that keeps it glued to the trail at mach9 through the gnar and stable, vs. other stuff that gets uncontrolled in the same terrain.
 
#772 ·
So, after a longer break, I’m sharing some new experiences with the 9.1 fork.
I managed to eliminate the brake rotor rattling in corners. The cause turned out to be a bolt on one dropout that wasn’t tightened to the specified torque. Just to be sure, I re-checked and re-tightened all the bolts — and now everything is perfectly fine.

The fork has clocked hundreds of kilometers and thousands of vertical meters across various terrain types, so it’s well broken in by now. And the performance? Absolutely phenomenal. It behaves exactly the way I always wanted — sensitive and comfortable on XC transfers, yet incredibly smooth and supportive when riding over steps, roots, rocks, and other trail obstacles. No diving into travel, no harsh bottom-outs — just a perfectly functioning piece of gear for all conditions.

I even caught myself purposely riding into holes and ruts just to enjoy how well the 9.1 handles them. A few times, I even stopped to check the tire pressure, thinking I might have a flat — that’s how smooth the fork feels. Great job, PUSH!

But this brings me back to my previous review, where I mentioned the fork wasn’t very sensitive to small bumps. Did the bushings just need time to settle in, or was it the seals in the closed damping cartridge? It honestly feels like I’m riding a completely different fork now.

And one more question: according to the specs, the fork should have 28 clicks of LSC and 28 clicks of HSC. Mine, however, has 32 clicks on HSC and only 24 on LSC. Has there been an internal change, or is this a custom setup for different rider weights?

Thanks!
 
#773 ·
I don't know the internals of the fork, but sometimes the number of clicks vary slightly depending on tolerances in machining or assembly (e.g. top cap on rod).
By FOX it can even vary depending on the stack height of the shims.
 
#774 ·
PUSHIND said:
That's actually a much broader conversation that has to be had. Hub construction, bearing size, hub cap interface, etc, all play a large role. For example, an I9 Hydra hub with standard end caps offers more stability than a DT Swiss 350 hub with Torque Caps. A lot of this comes down to the larger bearing and hub end cap insertion provided in the I9.
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I'd love to hear all about this, in particular where does the E13 hub slot in this equation.

But recommending hubs seems like a nice route to go.
 
#779 ·
Hi all,
Writing to share my impressions and some issues I’ve experienced after riding the fork for about a month - about 10 rides primarily in very rough/technical terrain plus one bike park day.

Overall this fork feels great and excels in very rough terrain at speed. Very plush and well composed and I’ve yet to feel it bottom out but have used all the travel. The damping adjustment range feels right on for me generally and I’m right in the middle of the adjustment range (showing around their recommended settings). No issues with the torsional stiffness but I will be getting torque caps for my front hub to try to stiffen it up a bit in the rougher terrain I ride.

However, I’m experiencing a bunch of issues for which Push has asked me to submit a warranty claim. Here’s what’s happening:

The fork is making a clicking/creaking sound when torsionally or laterally loaded. I think it’s coming from the leg/crown interface.

I’m also experiencing something weeping out of the leg/crown interface. I’m suspecting this is adhesive used to bond the crown and legs as it is sticky. I’m wondering if this has something to do with the clicking/creaking I’m hearing.

There is noticeable slop between the upper and lower legs (both sides) resulting in rattling/clunking in high speed chop. I suspect it’s an issue with the bushings. Some of this clunking over rough terrain could also be the fork guards rattling against the uppers.

I can relate to the concerns others mentioned about a lack of low speed bump sensitivity. I expected the fork to feel much more plush at the top of the stroke but it’s actually a bit harsh off the top - enough so that the fork deflects off bumps at low bike speeds and especially when climbing technical terrain with less weight on the front end. This is the only performance issue with the fork. When I take off the wheel and cycle the damper leg by hand, the initial breakaway has a lot of damping (consistent through the whole stroke) and there is some stiction when the leg transitions from compression to extension. Given the slop in the bushings/leg I suspect this is from internal friction somewhere in the damper. I think this is also harming the bump sensitivity. Hoping this can be addressed with some tweaks to the damper and valving when I send the fork in.

All these issues are a major bummer, but I’m eager to see what Push says and does when I they get the fork back in their hands. Hopefully everything can be ironed out as otherwise this fork is close to greatness.

Also, I’ve noticed that there is now a V2 of the Nine One listed on the Push site but no new info about what the differences may be. Does anyone have any insight on this?

www.pushindustries.com

Nine One

$2.250
www.pushindustries.com www.pushindustries.com

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#780 ·
palmermc83 said:
Hi all,
Writing to share my impressions and some issues I’ve experienced after riding the fork for about a month - about 10 rides primarily in very rough/technical terrain plus one bike park day.

Overall this fork feels great and excels in very rough terrain at speed. Very plush and well composed and I’ve yet to feel it bottom out but have used all the travel. The damping adjustment range feels right on for me generally and I’m right in the middle of the adjustment range (showing around their recommended settings). No issues with the torsional stiffness but I will be getting torque caps for my front hub to try to stiffen it up a bit in the rougher terrain I ride.

However, I’m experiencing a bunch of issues for which Push has asked me to submit a warranty claim. Here’s what’s happening:

The fork is making a clicking/creaking sound when torsionally or laterally loaded. I think it’s coming from the leg/crown interface.

I’m also experiencing something weeping out of the leg/crown interface. I’m suspecting this is adhesive used to bond the crown and legs as it is sticky. I’m wondering if this has something to do with the clicking/creaking I’m hearing.

There is noticeable slop between the upper and lower legs (both sides) resulting in rattling/clunking in high speed chop. I suspect it’s an issue with the bushings. Some of this clunking over rough terrain could also be the fork guards rattling against the uppers.

I can relate to the concerns others mentioned about a lack of low speed bump sensitivity. I expected the fork to feel much more plush at the top of the stroke but it’s actually a bit harsh off the top - enough so that the fork deflects off bumps at low bike speeds and especially when climbing technical terrain with less weight on the front end. This is the only performance issue with the fork. When I take off the wheel and cycle the damper leg by hand, the initial breakaway has a lot of damping (consistent through the whole stroke) and there is some stiction when the leg transitions from compression to extension. Given the slop in the bushings/leg I suspect this is from internal friction somewhere in the damper. I think this is also harming the bump sensitivity. Hoping this can be addressed with some tweaks to the damper and valving when I send the fork in.

All these issues are a major bummer, but I’m eager to see what Push says and does when I they get the fork back in their hands. Hopefully everything can be ironed out as otherwise this fork is close to greatness.

Also, I’ve noticed that there is now a V2 of the Nine One listed on the Push site but no new info about what the differences may be. Does anyone have any insight on this?

www.pushindustries.com

Nine One

$2.250
www.pushindustries.com www.pushindustries.com

Link to videos of clunking and creaking:

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Hopefully, you've already submitted the warranty case so that we can get this sorted for you.
 
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