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Bicycle Blue Book doesn't have anything. I'm wondering if people ahve ever tried to figure out what they are worth. 67Prince may be going to a SuperCaliber for his NICA racing, and he really wants an enduro bike. This leaves teh Signal Peak as a bike that won't get ridden, but I happen to have a friend who is interested in it for his wife. I have no idea how to value the bike, but it was built to a stupid high level:
FOx Factory 34SC fork
Fox Factory dropper
XO Transmission/Cassette
e*13XCX Race crank (400g with chainring)
SRAM Level Ultimate Brakes
e*13 Optimus Race Carbon wheelset

Bikes weighs under 25 pounds. Very well built bike, but I have no idea how to value it? Cost of each component, maybe at 50% original cost? I'd give an additional friend factor, but when we were talking last night....me about 67Prince maybe riding the SC primarily, and him mentioning wanting a more trail oriented bike for his (short) wife that would be more stable than the Niner she currently has.....it kind of came together that it might be a good fit. And when he asked what I'd want for it, I had no idea what to say.

So I'm not really looking for anyone to tell me what it is worth, or to tell me "whatever someone would pay for it," I'm really just wondering how to come up with a value of the thing so I can give my friend a fair price.
 
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The way I see upgrades to a bike is similar to upgrades to a house. If it's worth it to you, then upgrade it but that doesn't mean other people value those same upgrades or that you'll get your money back. I would start with 30-50% of MSRP, based on the age of the bike and which version of the Signal Peak it is. Then add in a "friend discount" based on how much you like this friend. If you feel like you can't offer them a fair price because the upgrades are worth more, consider whether you could put on some cheaper but still good components to recoup some of your cost. These are just my opinions.
 
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tryrebooting said:
The way I see upgrades to a bike is similar to upgrades to a house. If it's worth it to you, then upgrade it but that doesn't mean other people value those same upgrades or that you'll get your money back.
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Bike was built from a frameset, rather than upgrades. Sorry for the ambiguity. Ill see what the closest build level is and benchmark that, though. Thanks for the quick feedback! Bike is a 2023.
 
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67King said:
Bike was built from a frameset, rather than upgrades. Sorry for the ambiguity. Ill see what the closest build level is and benchmark that, though. Thanks for the quick feedback! Bike is a 2023.
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Oh cool! I sold a Signal Peak from around the same time frame. I ended up with going with 50% of MSRP but I was also selling to a high school XC racer who didn't have a lot of cash, so I tried to be a little under market value.
 
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Less than it’s ”worth.”

Used bikes are a bit of a giveaway these days. He might feel like it’s over paying, and you will feel that you are giving it away.

Also consider that many higher-end builds sold were either employee purchase or shop-team deals, so the MSRP numbers are goofy.

Last, Fezzari/Ari don’t hold value like some names on downtubes.
 
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noapathy said:
If the upgrades are "stupid" to the friend (i.e., would be of little added value) I'd swap out for lower end parts and use them on whatever new build(s) you're doing/plan to do.
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Sorry, was meant not in the "foolish" context of it, but kind of like saying something good is "bad." Just mean it was built with very high level components.

Looks like the current built equivalent is $8700. I'm inclined to think $3000-3500 is probably a pretty decent price.

67King said:
tryrebooting said:
The way I see upgrades to a bike is similar to upgrades to a house.......
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Bike was built from a frameset, rather than upgrades. Sorry for the ambiguity. Ill see what the closest build level is and benchmark that, though. Thanks for the quick feedback! Bike is a 2023.
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Actually, I lied. I initially built it with an X01 AXS drivetrain. Then I bought teh transmission setup to put on my SuperCaliber, which became mine, as the Fezzari, which was initially built for me, was kind of taken over by 67Prince when the hardtail he was trying to race NICA in was beating him up a bit much. At any rate, I went to put the transmission on the SuperCaliber, only to realize that the first year they made them, they did not have the UDH. So that little effer not only got my totally BA Fezzari, then he got the &^%*ing transmission that was supposed to be mine, too (and the X01 Eagle stuff went to the SC).
 
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67King said:
Sorry, was meant not in the "foolish" context of it, but kind of like saying something good is "bad." Just mean it was built with very high level components.
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Yup. I knew that's what you meant. And also that depending on their riding abilities, that the friend might not notice any benefit from said high-end parts. I tend to have spares of things like drivetrains so figured you might as well. I like to keep nicer parts and move them bike to bike and let the rest kind of get used however they may.
 
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noapathy said:
Yup. I knew that's what you meant. And also that depending on their riding abilities, that the friend might not notice any benefit from said high-end parts. I tend to have spares of things like drivetrains so figured you might as well. I like to keep nicer parts and move them bike to bike and let the rest kind of get used however they may.
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They are a fellow XC/NICA family, so they get the value of a lot of that stuff. And all 3 of them (father, wife, daughter) ride mountain, gravel, and road. Friend has a singlespeed, XC, and trail bike for his MTB efforts, but his wife just has an XC bike. She is looking for a more trail oriented geometry setup. This one is longer, slacker, and has more travel, so it would potentially be a good fit. Still light, and she's a pretty petite lady, so this would be a pretty good fit.

I do have spares, but the transmission wouldn't work on the non-UDH SuperCaliber, so I couldn't use that stuff. The crank, fork, and wheels are the same things that are on my singlespeed, so I could use those. HOwever, I do have spare wheels and cranks in the event I have a failure. Also have spare damper and air spring so I can quickly rebuild the fork. Finally, I'm pretty much just fully singlespeed now, so I don't anticipate building another bike where I'd be able to use any of this. Certainly good thoughts, and "parting out" the Fezzari would probably be a decent bet, but if I can just sell it whole, it may be the best bet.

All that said, 67Prince is talking to another NICA buddy about buying his enduro bike, that has a mechanical GX drivetrain. So I could potentially swap out the groupset if that whole thing works. Don't believe that any of the friend's familiy's bikes are AXS so they are used to mechanical shifting.
 
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