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How many times in the history of mountain biking have we seen some iteration of this fork design? Where are all those forks these days? The cutting EDGE of suspension, the RS-1?

Kendalweed said all I needed to know in his video. Pedal hit the coating, left a nasty gouge, fork puked oil. Junk.
 
The Vaia does look nice, but since I got a new Dorado I'm happy.


Though hearing about the above makes me think about a steel axle for it!

There is noticeable braking twist when braking hard, only visual, but significant.
Do you have the new dual bolt upper clamp? I found that makes a decent difference in twisting.
 
How many times in the history of mountain biking have we seen some iteration of this fork design? Where are all those forks these days? The cutting EDGE of suspension, the RS-1?
There are a lot of things we use today that were trash when they came out (hydraulic brakes, dropper posts, FS bikes, tires, mountain bikes in general?) and early iterations didn't work or had major faults. I don't know that this is the best thing ever - but I wouldn't write it off purely because manufacturing 20 years ago couldn't make it work, a lot has changed since then.
 
Watching bike check footage of the enduro world cup this weekend, didn't see a single Podium fork, including Richie's bike.
I don't know anything about marketing but I'd be wary about pushing a product onto every athlete... If they all had a dip in form it wouldn't look good!
If it's more a mix the data is more blurry!!
 
The Vaia does look nice, but since I got a new Dorado I'm happy.


Though hearing about the above makes me think about a steel axle for it!

There is noticeable braking twist when braking hard, only visual, but significant.
Only visual? When I rode the Formula 35 I felt like I had to countersteer while braking!
 
Kendalweed said all I needed to know in his video. Pedal hit the coating, left a nasty gouge, fork puked oil. Junk.
He also said that the only thing better than riding with this fork was skiing powder. He just made the mistake of letting a pedal destroy the fork. I think most of us here that shuttle 2 or more bikes constantly have done some serious damage to bikes by forgetting to drop a pedal so it doesn't get into the bike next to it.
 
There are a lot of things we use today that were trash when they came out (hydraulic brakes, dropper posts, FS bikes, tires, mountain bikes in general?) and early iterations didn't work or had major faults. I don't know that this is the best thing ever - but I wouldn't write it off purely because manufacturing 20 years ago couldn't make it work, a lot has changed since then.
I'm totally writing off a single crown inverted fork. I think the dual crown for them makes a ton of sense. Single? Not so much.

You're right though.. the industry does keep doing things until people bite. I mean, shoot, I'm enjoying the 29/27.5 mullet, but the 26/24 from 25 years ago wasn't a selling point.
 
I'm enjoying the 29/27.5 mullet, but the 26/24 from 25 years ago wasn't a selling point.
I had a 2004 Big Hit. I honestly can't remember the marketing for it. I vaguely recall them doing it to keep the wheelbase in check but honestly can't remember. I can say that 24" wheel might have been the strongest bike part I've ever owned 🤣
 
How many times in the history of mountain biking have we seen some iteration of this fork design? Where are all those forks these days?
The worst thing that we have seen before that thankfully went away, is over sized single crown forks.
Unfortunately it seems like they are back now.

Marzocchi 66
RockShox Totem (40mm stanchion single crown)
Manitou Travis with 180mm travel.

When Push Industries says their 9.1 is limited to 170mm, it is for good reason.
Those selling you 180mm single crown forks are doing it for the buyer. Not because it is a good engineering decision, or works well.
I just can't believe people still think a dual crown forks is going to limit their riding.
The only limitation of a dual crown fork is style points. If you want to bar spin, do massive sick turn downs etc.
 
I had a 2004 Big Hit. I honestly can't remember the marketing for it. I vaguely recall them doing it to keep the wheelbase in check but honestly can't remember. I can say that 24" wheel might have been the strongest bike part I've ever owned 🤣
It's the same reason why they have 279 bikes now. It puts the front axle higher than the rear axle. There are solid physics reasons why this is good.
 
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