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picked up the Mezzer Pro at 160mm and put it on my Revel Rail 29. I was running Fox 36 Grip2 on this bike which was working well but just wanted to try something different and experience the supposed wonders of good mid stroke support lol

I can't seem to get this fork to feel good. I ride in northern NJ and most of my loops are very rocky and chunky. Your typical NorthEast/New England rocky and rooty that most people are like I don't want to walk this why are you riding it kind of stuff...

FYI...I am 145lb ready to ride weight...

I have tried a few pressure settings:
Started with the factory recommeded 46 Main/76 IRT
Tried 40/70, and today I tried 35/58 (this setting generates about 25% sag)

LSC and HSC wide open...Rebound settings have been anywhere from wide open up to 3 clicks from wide open...

I am waiting on the 37mm head from Oliver to burnish the bushings...so I will be pulling lowers,etc...

any thoughts on trying to make this fork feel better? I wasn't complaining about the Fox and I have have a Pike on another bike that I get along with fine. First time I've had a fork I can't seem to get dialed in...

any recommendations? I have seen comments about removing one of the shims from the compression stack? as well as modifying the rebound stack?
I would probably lighten the compression tune and possibly rebound. You may also find a lower IRT pressure can help, making fork more linear. I found on both my mezzer expert and mattoc pro, I prefer a lower IRT pressure difference for rocky/rooty terrain.
 
picked up the Mezzer Pro at 160mm and put it on my Revel Rail 29. I was running Fox 36 Grip2 on this bike which was working well but just wanted to try something different and experience the supposed wonders of good mid stroke support lol

I can't seem to get this fork to feel good. I ride in northern NJ and most of my loops are very rocky and chunky. Your typical NorthEast/New England rocky and rooty that most people are like I don't want to walk this why are you riding it kind of stuff...

FYI...I am 145lb ready to ride weight...

I have tried a few pressure settings:
Started with the factory recommeded 46 Main/76 IRT
Tried 40/70, and today I tried 35/58 (this setting generates about 25% sag)

LSC and HSC wide open...Rebound settings have been anywhere from wide open up to 3 clicks from wide open...

I am waiting on the 37mm head from Oliver to burnish the bushings...so I will be pulling lowers,etc...

any thoughts on trying to make this fork feel better? I wasn't complaining about the Fox and I have have a Pike on another bike that I get along with fine. First time I've had a fork I can't seem to get dialed in...

any recommendations? I have seen comments about removing one of the shims from the compression stack? as well as modifying the rebound stack?
Could you give some more info what you don't like?
I run my Mezzer pretty close to the set-up guide after trying way too many settings. I would recommend changing main pressure in 2 psi increments and IRT changes in 10 psi increments.
Changing the quad seal is a good first step and while you are at that you can also change the fluids in the lowers.
 
the mezzer tuning guide said shims are set for 170 lb rider, so 145 lb will need shim adjustment.

i'm 155 lbs, tried my 180mm mezzer pro for the first time today at the bike park. feels good for jumps but not that great on the roots and chunk. trying to go fast through chunk, my front end gets knocked off line.

at my weight and air pressures, i need faster rebound and less high speed compression. im full open on both right now. im just a little scared to take the bladder apart, dont have all the tools for it yet.
 
thank for the replies...

keeping relevant info in post: 145lbs, 35 main/58 IRT. Fork is 2023 Production Year

with the settings I have used so far the fork seems too stiff or harsh...as speeds pick up it does feel better but there still is a noticable harshness to it. At higher speeds i do feel like the fork tracks better and handles the chunk better compared to the 36...

I will try keepin the main at 35psi and drop the IRT and see how that feels...
I will look into the QuaD Ring
Looks like I should remove the 17.5mm shim from the compression stack.
Given my fork is a 2023, i might not have a shim removal mod option available?

Hopefully I can get this fork sorted...I usually dont have to think about how the fork is working and I can just ride...
 
thank for the replies...

keeping relevant info in post: 145lbs, 35 main/58 IRT. Fork is 2023 Production Year

with the settings I have used so far the fork seems too stiff or harsh...as speeds pick up it does feel better but there still is a noticable harshness to it. At higher speeds i do feel like the fork tracks better and handles the chunk better compared to the 36...

I will try keepin the main at 35psi and drop the IRT and see how that feels...
I will look into the QuaD Ring
Looks like I should remove the 17.5mm shim from the compression stack.
Given my fork is a 2023, i might not have a shim removal mod option available?

Hopefully I can get this fork sorted...I usually dont have to think about how the fork is working and I can just ride...
Okay. You are looking for a more smooth on small bumps, when the forks geta moving.
My Mezzer had that problem too and I was able to fix it with a lower leg service and replacing the quad seal.
for lower leg service you need the Manitou service tool or a cassette tool that works — search this thread for infos on which casette tools work. You will also need the lower leg oil:
Motorex Power Synt
1 l, SAE 5W-40
Yes that is a motor oil.
And this is the link to the replacement seal that you want to order: X-Ring 24,99 x 3,53 mm BS214 NBR 70 +/- 5 Shore A schwarz/black

I would try something like main 42 and IRT 52 and increase main by 2 psi steps. 35 seems very low and could lack in mid-stroke support.
 
most recent ride was at 35/58, previous was 40/70...

I have the tools and fluids to do the lower leg service. I am just waiting on the burnishing head which I should have wednesday and will do lower leg service and burnish bushings and see how fork feels. Next step after that will be compression shim mod...
 
Okay. You are looking for a more smooth on small bumps, when the forks geta moving.
My Mezzer had that problem too ...
search this thread for infos on which casette tools work.
Sorry for the administrative question, but I cannot figure out how to "search" this thread for search strings. Can somebody tell me how?
 
looking like modifying shim stack will be route I will have to go...

any recommended source for the Quad Seal in the USA?
I got mine from here:
214 X-ring (air piston): https://www.theoringstore.com/store/index.php?products_id=4914
122 (or 121) o-ring (IRT piston): https://www.theoringstore.com/store/index.php?products_id=1158
10x3mm o-ring (air/IRT shafts): https://www.theoringstore.com/store/index.php?products_id=2080

They also have FKM versions which I've read can be more oil resistant and slightly slipperier.
 
looking like modifying shim stack will be route I will have to go...

any recommended source for the Quad Seal in the USA?
totally recommend the QRing change. Transforms the fork, I had to up the pressure afterwards.
I also made sure the foam rings are saturated with Lowe leg lube, and put a layer of slickoleum on the dust wipers.

great fork.
 
the mezzer tuning guide said shims are set for 170 lb rider, so 145 lb will need shim adjustment.

i'm 155 lbs, tried my 180mm mezzer pro for the first time today at the bike park. feels good for jumps but not that great on the roots and chunk. trying to go fast through chunk, my front end gets knocked off line.

at my weight and air pressures, i need faster rebound and less high speed compression. im full open on both right now. im just a little scared to take the bladder apart, dont have all the tools for it yet.
Have you done anything to decrease the friction yet? Like take it apart and put in new grease and oil? If you remove the lowers and try to push and pull the damper rods with the knobs set to minimum you will probably find that the damper is quite soft.

I took mine apart to remove a compression shim as indicated in the first post. The fork was very supportive but not easy on the hands and the bike lost speed in rough sections. At the same time I put in some oil in the IRT and in the main chamber (a tip from another thread) and r.s.p oil in the lowers. Now the fork is so much more supple I regret removing that shim, but I’m almost 200 lb.

Oil in the main chamber is a bit annoying since you have to have the fork upside down when attaching the pump to main chamber. People are also using other x-rings to remove stiction there.
 
Have you done anything to decrease the friction yet? Like take it apart and put in new grease and oil? If you remove the lowers and try to push and pull the damper rods with the knobs set to minimum you will probably find that the damper is quite soft.

I took mine apart to remove a compression shim as indicated in the first post. The fork was very supportive but not easy on the hands and the bike lost speed in rough sections. At the same time I put in some oil in the IRT and in the main chamber (a tip from another thread) and r.s.p oil in the lowers. Now the fork is so much more supple I regret removing that shim, but I’m almost 200 lb.

Oil in the main chamber is a bit annoying since you have to have the fork upside down when attaching the pump to main chamber. People are also using other x-rings to remove stiction there.
nope, didn't take anything apart. just ran it as is to get a baseline. the fork sticks if it sits for a while, but once moving friction doesn't seem that bad.
 
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