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Shimano’s XTR M9250 Di2 marks a defining moment in the evolution of high-performance mountain bike drivetrains. After years of speculation and delay, Shimano’s fully wireless system is here—and it’s built not just to compete with SRAM Transmission, but to win back the confidence of mountain bikers. Given the significance of this product launch—and the scope of what's changed—this is a very, very long review. So buckle up, pour yourself another cup of coffee, and let’s dive in.

As a courtesy, if you have other things to do with your time—such as riding—here’s the TL;DR version: Shimano’s XTR M9250 Di2 offers lightning-fast shifting, excellent ergonomics, and benchmark braking. It’s a serious competitor to SRAM’s top-shelf Transmission drivetrains, but it's best suited to riders who prioritize shift speed above everything else.

Now, on with the show…

When Shimano launched its original XTR M9100 series way back in May of 2018, it marked the brand’s first mountain bike groupset with 12-speed shifting. That was, for me at least, a lifetime ago—before COVID, before Transmission, before wireless anything outside the road world. In the intervening years, the entire drivetrain landscape has undergone significant reshaping, and expectations for how mountain bikes perform have evolved just as dramatically. Fast forward to 2025, and the all-new XTR M9250 Di2 represents a much more radical evolution: a completely wireless drivetrain platform aimed squarely riders who demand speed, consistency, and reliability. But will that be enough?

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Shimano may have taken its time entering the wireless mountain bike drivetrain space, but the result is a thoughtful, purpose-built system. I tested the XTR M9250 Di2 drivetrain and brake system on unfamiliar trails in Tucson, Arizona, as part of a Shimano press camp, and continued several more months of testing on familiar Colorado singletrack. Here's what stood out, what needs refinement, and how it stacks up in a rapidly, ahem, shifting landscape.

Highlights
  • Price: $920 - $2,915
  • Fully wireless shifting (Wired E-MTB version)
  • Dual spring, zero-maintenance clutch with automatic impact recovery
  • New brake fluid and lever design with consistent bite point
  • 9-45T and 10-51T cassette options
  • XC and Enduro crankset options
  • XC and Enduro wheelset options
Pros
  • Affordable upgrade kit available
  • Extremely fast, precise shifting under load
  • Multi-shift capability in both directions
  • Best-in-class brake modulation and ergonomics
  • Intuitive shifter feel and programmable controls
  • Long battery life (~210 miles per charge)
  • Excellent chain retention
  • Compatible with non-UDH frames
Cons
  • Derailleur feedback can feel distracting in rough terrain
  • Ecosystem is still limited compared to SRAM’s AXS suite
  • No shared battery standard with Fox dropper and suspension components
  • Premium price tag for the complete group
Buy If
  • You’re a performance-focused rider who values ultra-fast shifting
  • You want wireless shifting but don’t like SRAM’s ergonomics
  • Braking performance and bleed simplicity matter to you
  • You need non-UDH frame compatibility
Don’t Buy If
  • You prioritize absolute silence from your drivetrain
  • You’re already invested in SRAM’s Transmission ecosystem

XTR M9250 Design and Features

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Shimano’s XTR M9250 derailleur introduces SHADOW ES—a wedge-shaped, low-profile design that minimizes frontal exposure to trail debris. "We looked at things from the rock’s point of view," Shimano’s Nick Murdick said during the media camp. The new layout shields the clutch and motor using a wide-link structure, integrated bumpers, and a skid plate. The derailleur automatically resets after impact, ensuring shift accuracy is preserved.
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Pulley wheels are solid to prevent debris jamming, while the dual-spring clutch delivers higher chain tension with no maintenance interval and no loss in performance over time. The sealed onboard battery is tucked safely inside the derailleur and can be removed for charging. Official capacity is 305mAh, which translates more than 200 miles in real-world conditions.

Two derailleur sizes are available: a long cage for 10-51T cassettes, and a mid cage for the new 9-45T compact cassette. The compact drivetrain also trims weight with a smaller chainring, fewer chain links, and tighter gear spacing.

Shifting Ergonomics and Customization
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The SHIMANO RAPID ES Di2 shifter is one of the highlights of this group. It features a natural-feeling four-way paddle setup with tactile feedback, a programmable third button, and a trim mode that mimics a barrel adjuster—ideal for riders who still want some analog control in a digital system. Riders can choose I-SPEC EV or clamp band mounting.

The battery is smart, too. It requires manual input to wake up, preventing accidental drain during transport. A side LED displays charge status, and there’s a button on the derailleur for backup battery checks.

Cranksets
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Shimano offers both an XC crank (FC-M9200) and a burlier trail/enduro option (FC-M9220). Both use HOLLOWTECH II construction, with Q-factors of 168mm and 176mm, respectively. A new 160mm crank arm length is also offered for the first time.

Cassette Options
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The 12-speed cassettes include a compact 9-45T and a traditional 10-51T, both using MICRO SPLINE freehubs. Subtle changes to tooth profiles and cog interfaces improve shifting under load. Also, there's no black finish on three largest cogs of the cassette, which was found to look more worn than it actually was. The 9-45T setup also contributes to weight savings and better chain wrap.

Best of all, the new components are backward compatible with current Shimano 12-speed cassettes and the current 12-speed chain is carried forward unchanged.

XTR M9250 Review: Component-by-Component Breakdown
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Below is a detailed breakdown of each major component in the XTR M9250 Di2 lineup, including MSRP and technical details.

A few words on pricing: We've seen various prices listed in press materials; as such, we're listing actual prices found at trusted online retailers.

Rear Derailleur (RD-M9250)
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Shimano’s wireless XTR derailleur is the centerpiece of the M9250 drivetrain. On the trail, it offers lightning-fast actuation and high chain tension for confident shifting even in rough terrain. It features a SHADOW ES profile that protects the housing and clutch mechanism from rock strikes and debris. The new dual-spring clutch design improves chain stability while eliminating maintenance. This derailleur also houses the drivetrain’s sealed 305mAh battery and features impact recovery technology that realigns the derailleur after a strike.
  • Wireless SHADOW ES design
  • Auto-reset clutch with solid pulleys
  • Integrated battery with LED status check
  • Available in GS (9-45T) and SGS (10-51T) configurations
  • MSRP: $620 (USD)
Rear Derailleur (RD-M9260 – E-MTB)

Designed for e-MTBs, this wired derailleur enables FREE SHIFT and AUTO SHIFT when paired with STEPS drive units and compatible displays. It supports both 12-speed HYPERGLIDE+ and 11-speed LINKGLIDE drivetrains. Unlike the RD-M9250, it is not wireless and connects via Shimano’s e-TUBE wiring.

MSRP: $620 (USD)

Shifter
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The RAPID ES shifter is a standout feature of the new Di2 system. It’s highly customizable and delivers precise tactile feedback thanks to its four-way paddle layout. Riders can configure shifting behavior via the E-TUBE PROJECT app and assign alternate functions to the third programmable button, including dropper post actuation or screen toggling on compatible head units. The unit also includes a trim mode for fine-tuning shifts mid-ride and supports both I-SPEC EV and clamp band mounting.
  • Four-way shifting paddles with programmable functions
  • Adjustable paddle feel and responsiveness
  • Bluetooth LE and ANT+ connectivity
  • Trim mode for micro-adjustments
  • MSRP: $220 (USD)
Cranksets: XC and Trail
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Shimano’s XTR crank arms remain some of the lightest and stiffest available, owing to their HOLLOWTECH II construction. The new M9250 generation introduces a 160mm arm length in addition to the standard 165, 170, and 175mm options, and includes two versions: the narrower FC-M9200 (XC) and the wider Q-factor FC-M9220 (Trail). Most notably, the crank interface now uses a 0mm chainring offset, which affects chainline when mixing new and older generation components.
  • HOLLOWTECH II forged aluminum arms
  • XC (168mm Q-factor) and Trail (176mm Q-factor) options
  • New 160mm arm length available
  • 0mm chainring offset
  • MSRP: $280
Cassettes
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Shimano’s 12-speed cassettes for XTR remain largely unchanged from the M9100 generation. The 10-51T offers a broad range for general trail and enduro use, while the 9-45T prioritizes tighter spacing and lower weight for XC racing. Both use MICRO SPLINE freehub bodies and employ a mix of steel, titanium, and aluminum cogs.

MSRP: $465 (USD)

Chain
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The XTR chain carries over from the previous generation. It uses a directional design and Shimano’s proprietary SIL-TEC treatment for reduced friction and improved wear. It’s fully compatible with both 9-45T and 10-51T cassettes.

MSRP: $68.99 (USD)

Brakes
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The new XTR brake systems delivers powerful and consistent braking across conditions. The new ERGO FLOW lever shape feels more supportive under load and offers improved modulation thanks to a revised SERVO WAVE ramp profile.

The 2-piston XC version is ideal for lighter weight builds, while the 4-piston Trail version adds power and fade resistance with Shimano's Ice-Tech pad and rotor compatibility.

A hybrid build combining the Trail lever and XC caliper is also available for weight-conscious riders who want enhanced lever feel and #downcountry usage.
  • ERGO FLOW lever shape with revised SERVO WAVE ramp
  • Compatible with new low-viscosity mineral oil
  • Available in 2- or 4-piston configurations
  • Trail model includes cooling fins and aluminum backing plates
  • XC Brake System MSRP: BL-9200/BR-9200: $295 (per wheel)
  • Hybrid Brake System: BL-9220/BR-9200 MSRP: $305 (per wheel)
  • Trail/Enduro Brake System MSRP: BL-9220/BR-9220 MSRP: $330 (per wheel)
Wheelsets: XC and Trail
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Shimano’s latest XTR wheels impressed during testing with quick engagement, excellent lateral stiffness, and smooth compliance on rocky terrain. The WH-M9200 (XC) is the lighter option, featuring hooked rims and titanium spokes for weight savings. The WH-M9220 (Trail) version is built to handle more abuse, with a hookless design, wider internal width, and j-bend spokes for easier serviceability. Engagement from the new hub system is quick at 3.5°, and both sets roll on updated seals for longevity.
  • WH-M9200 (XC): Hooked bead, 29.6mm internal, 1,175g
  • WH-M9220 (Trail): Hookless bead, 30mm internal, 1,791g
  • Titanium or j-bend spokes depending on model
  • Hubs feature 3.5° engagement and improved sealing
  • WH-M9220 MSRP: $1,715
  • WH-M9200 MSRP: $2,170
Hubs
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The new Shimano XTR hubs complete the M9250 system with fast engagement and long-term durability. At the heart of these hubs is a 36-tooth ratchet that delivers 3.5° of engagement—faster than previous generations. They’re MICRO SPLINE compatible and designed to pair seamlessly with Shimano’s latest cassettes. The improved labyrinth seals help keep mud and grit out on wet or dusty rides. Engagement during testing felt sharp and consistent, with no noticeable lag or skipped teeth.
  • 3.5° engagement via 36T ratchet
  • MICRO SPLINE freehub interface
  • Enhanced labyrinth seals for durability
  • Available standalone or in WH-M9200 and WH-M9220 wheelsets
  • MSRP: $175 (rear), $110 (front)
XTR Upgrade Kit: A Cost-Effective Path for Shimano Riders
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One of the most compelling aspects of the new Shimano XTR M9250 Di2 drivetrain is the upgrade kit—a streamlined, relatively affordable way for current Shimano 12-speed mechanical riders to enter the world of wireless shifting. Instead of requiring a full groupset swap, this kit lets riders keep their existing 10-51T HYPERGLIDE+ cassette, and cranks while upgrading the shifting performance to match Shimano's latest Di2 tech.

The XTR M9250 upgrade kit includes everything you need: the SGS long cage rear derailleur, a wireless Di2 shifter, Shimano's new DN320 battery, the EC-DN100 charger, and a fresh CN-9120 chain

MSRP: $920


Compatibility Notes and Considerations

Shimano has made several behind-the-scenes changes to the M9250 series that improve performance—but also create some compatibility caveats worth noting:

Brake Fluid Compatibility
  • The new ERGO FLOW levers and BR-M9200/9220 calipers are optimized to run with Shimano’s new low-viscosity mineral oil.
  • Mixing fluids is not recommended. Shimano clearly states that older brakes should not be used with the new fluid, and vice versa.
  • This is primarily due to the updated internal seals and piston materials in the new brakes, which are formulated specifically for the new oil.
  • Bottom line: stick with the matching system—don’t try to retrofit just the levers or just the calipers from the M9250 series onto older XTR or XT brakes.
Chainring and Crankset Compatibility
  • Shimano moved from a -3mm offset ring to a 0mm offset with M9250. That small number has big implications:
    • New rings on old cranks can increase chainline by 3mm.
    • Old rings on new cranks reduce chainline by 3mm.
  • Some combinations, such as using a new ring on the FC-M9130 (which already has a 56.5mm chainline), would result in a 59.5mm chainline—well outside spec.
  • Riders mixing and matching should carefully measure and evaluate front derailleur clearance, chainstay spacing, and chainline.
Shifter and Wireless System
  • The wireless Di2 shifter (SW-M9250) is not compatible with older Di2 derailleurs.
  • It can be used with select Garmin devices, E-TUBE PROJECT, and can control some accessories—but only when paired via Bluetooth LE or ANT+.
Derailleur and Frame Standards
  • RD-M9250 is not a UDH-mounted derailleur, but it is compatible with UDH frames as long as they include a traditional derailleur hanger.
  • It does not integrate into the axle or dropout like SRAM’s Transmission derailleurs.
  • Riders with both traditional and UDH-equipped frames can use it, provided the frame retains a standard hanger.
  • For e-MTBs or systems requiring FREE SHIFT and AUTO SHIFT, the wired RD-M9260 is required.
These changes don’t limit performance, but they do require careful planning for anyone upgrading piecemeal rather than as a complete group.

Shimano XTR M9250 Review: Ride Impressions

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My test bike for this review was the Transition Sentinel V3—a long-travel 29er that felt entirely appropriate for evaluating the limits of this new drivetrain. With its slack geometry and progressive suspension, the Sentinel let me push the XTR M9250 system hard through both high-speed descents and awkward climbs, highlighting both its strengths and quirks.
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From the first ride, the XTR Di2 system impressed with its rapid, crisp shifting—even under full load. The ability to multi-shift in both directions (something SRAM Transmission lacks) proved particularly useful on undulating terrain. On press camp trails in Tucson, where line choice changed rapidly, the fast actuation helped me stay focused and flow through unfamiliar features. The drivetrain felt confident and authoritative during quick power applications, especially out of corners or into short, punchy climbs.
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On top of trail performance, I also found the M9250 brakes fade-free and extremely easy to bleed. Shimano’s mineral oil system has always been user-friendly, but the updated levers and calipers—combined with the new low-viscosity fluid—made the bleed process faster and more consistent. I only bled them once to test how user-friendly it was. As expected, it was much easier to pull a perfect bleed the first time than with Mavens.
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The drivetrain remained stable under heavy load and on techy climbs where traction fluctuated with every pedal stroke. Shifting under torque was smooth and quiet—even while climbing awkward, high-step terrain.
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Shifts felt deliberate and fast, yet not abrupt, allowing you to keep momentum instead of stalling. It especially shined on switchback climbs where gear changes needed to be both reactive and smooth.

Battery performance was solid throughout. On a fully charged battery, I logged more than 200 miles of mixed trail use without seeing the LED drop to red. The fact that the system doesn't auto-wake from motion is a plus for riders who transport bikes frequently.

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Wheels were another surprise. While Shimano’s previous factory wheelsets didn’t always compete with boutique offerings, the WH-M9220 Trail model proved to be laterally stiff without feeling harsh. Tracking felt precise through off-camber rock sections in the Front Range, and the updated hub engagement (3.5°) was fast enough to handle ratchet-heavy climbing sections. Over several months of riding on Colorado’s rocky Front Range trails, I never had to touch the spoke tension—a strong indicator of the WH-M9220 wheelset’s long-term durability.

That said, there is one tactile quirk worth mentioning. In rough terrain, I occasionally felt a thunking sensation from the rear derailleur as it shifted position. It wasn’t a rattle or noise—more of a brief jolt you could feel through the frame. Shimano says this is part of its protective impact recovery feature. While it didn’t affect performance or chain retention, it may be distracting to riders accustomed to the silence and fixed position of SRAM’s Transmission derailleur.

Personally, I was able to desensitize myself to the sensation over time, but I still found it notable enough to seek a second opinion.

Joe Mackey, a former editor at Mountain Bike Action and now the owner of Bicycle John's Santa Clarita, has a solid perspective on how this product might land with everyday consumers. He was given an early preview of the group and shared this insight:

"In my experience, riders who are spending top dollar on their bikes want one thing: a quiet ride. Most don’t understand their equipment the way brands assume they do. A large part of our service work is tracking down noises that riders can’t diagnose. While my time on this new drivetrain is limited, it seems well thought out and a smart move toward competing with SRAM in the wireless market. But a component that makes an abrupt noise on the trail could create confusion—and it’ll take strong communication from Shimano, through both media and shops, to get ahead of that."

Overall, the XTR M9250 group feels like a highly polished, top-tier option that prioritizes control and consistency. It’s clearly optimized for racers and experienced trail riders who want high-speed reliability without sacrificing feel. Shimano took its time—and it shows.

Shimano XTR vs. SRAM Transmission: Drivetrain and Brake Showdown

With both Shimano and SRAM pushing high-end wireless drivetrain platforms, it’s only natural to compare their trail-focused offerings. Shimano’s XTR M9250 Di2 and SRAM’s XX Transmission are aimed at similar riders—aggressive trail riders and racers who demand precision, durability, and performance in demanding terrain.

Shifting and Drivetrain Feel
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Shimano’s XTR Di2 drivetrain delivers faster shift actuation under load and the ability to multi-shift in both directions. In testing, it felt snappier than SRAM’s Transmission, which prioritizes smoothness and silence over raw speed. SRAM’s fixed derailleur mount (direct to the frame) offers unmatched stability and silence, while Shimano’s conventional hanger mount with automatic realignment prioritizes compatibility and serviceability.
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I can’t overstate how much better Shimano’s ergonomics feel. The paddle layout, lever shape, and tactile response are far more intuitive and confidence-inspiring than anything SRAM currently offers. That advantage isn’t new—Shimano is leaning into its strengths here. The brand has clearly built opon what it already did exceptionally well in M9100, especially shift speed under load and lever feel. Some of that comes down to rider-focused engineering. Some of it, frankly, is because Shimano sits atop a mountain of drivetrain patents that give it a significant advantage in tactile feel and control.

If you value rapid gear changes while sprinting or climbing, XTR has the edge. If you prefer the unflappable quietness and solid feel of a mounted derailleur, SRAM may better suit your style.

Braking Performance
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While both SRAM and Shimano offer four-piston brakes targeting the trail and enduro segment, Shimano’s new M9250 system feels like a generational leap. Modulation is more precise, lever feel is more natural, and bleeding is significantly easier. Compared to SRAM’s new Maven brakes, XTR offered a lighter touch at the lever and more predictable control in steep terrain.
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Shimano’s new low-viscosity fluid and funnel-based bleed system also make setup and maintenance far more approachable. While SRAM’s Bleeding Edge system is clean, it still feels more involved.

Shimano’s XTR M9250 Di2 beats SRAM’s XX Transmission on shift speed, shifter ergonomics, and braking performance. SRAM still holds the edge in drivetrain silence and the perceived ruggedness of its direct-mount derailleur system.


Verdict
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Shimano’s XTR M9250 Di2 is a serious contender for performance-minded riders. If you’re racing XC, riding high-speed singletrack, or just want one of the fastest shifting drivetrains ever made, this system delivers. It feels thoughtfully engineered and battle-tested, and the new brake system adds even more appeal.

This group is best suited to riders who prioritize shift performance above all else. If you frequently ride technical terrain where clean gear changes mean the difference between clearing a section or walking, you’ll benefit from XTR’s lightning-fast responsiveness. The ability to micro-adjust, multi-shift, and customize the cockpit setup also makes it ideal for riders who want to fine-tune every input.

On the braking side, Shimano’s ERGO FLOW lever and new mineral oil formula offer best-in-class control and bleeding simplicity. Racers and gravity riders alike will appreciate how little effort it takes to modulate braking power—especially late in a long descent.
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However, this group isn’t for everyone. SRAM’s Transmission offers better drivetrain integration. Likewise, Shimano’s current lack of Di2 trickle-down means the M9250 system remains an elite product.

Shimano is clearly aiming to reclaim market share at the top end of the drivetrain market and has focused on clawing back customers with refined ergonomics, fast actuation, and smart durability upgrades. You’ll need to weigh whether shift speed outweighs the serenity of a silent drivetrain. For me, I’ll take the speed every time.

Despite the strength of this flagship product, Shimano’s broader challenge lies in rebuilding momentum across the full spectrum of mountain bikes. With SRAM already offering Transmission at the GX level and S-1000 options appearing on OEM builds, the competitive pressure is no longer confined to top-tier components. Shimano has yet to unveil a Di2 strategy for XT, SLX, or Deore—critical tiers that represent where most riders actually enter the sport.

What’s becoming increasingly clear is that—for better and for worse—the top tier of drivetrain technology is now firmly electronic. But winning the drivetrain war won’t hinge solely on XTR's performance. It will depend on Shimano’s ability to integrate this technology into affordable, reliable platforms that brands want to spec and consumers want to ride. XTR M9250 proves Shimano can still lead in performance. The next step is proving it can deliver that excellence at scale.


 

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That's some impressive weight savings over AXS, even if you add back in the weight of a hanger and a bolt or two. I have no doubt we will see XT and lower spec versions soon - if I recall, Di2 first came out as XTR only also.

I think that the decision to not require a UDH and to maintain compatibility with existing cassettes, chains, and chainrings is a significant one and opens up a larger potential buyer base.
 
Glad to hear re: shifting speed. That plus weight are really the only two weaknesses of Transmission.

This can't be right, is it? Name brand, 1,175g XC wheels at $1400 would be a market changer.

Wheels

Shimano’s latest XTR wheels impressed during testing with quick engagement, excellent lateral stiffness, and smooth compliance on rocky terrain. The WH-M9200 (XC) is the lighter option, featuring hooked rims and titanium spokes for weight savings. The WH-M9220 (Trail) version is built to handle more abuse, with a hookless design, wider internal width, and j-bend spokes for easier serviceability. Engagement from the new hub system is quick at 3.5°, and both sets roll on updated seals for longevity.

  • WH-M9200 (XC): Hooked bead, 29.6mm internal, 1,175g
  • WH-M9220 (Trail): Hookless bead, 30mm internal, 1,791g
  • Titanium or j-bend spokes depending on model
  • Hubs feature 3.5° engagement and improved sealing
  • MSRP: $1,399.99 (pair, WH-M9220)
 
Discussion starter · #7 · (Edited)
Glad to hear re: shifting speed. That plus weight are really the only two weaknesses of Transmission.

This can't be right, is it? Name brand, 1,175g XC wheels at $1400 would be a market changer.

Wheels

Shimano’s latest XTR wheels impressed during testing with quick engagement, excellent lateral stiffness, and smooth compliance on rocky terrain. The WH-M9200 (XC) is the lighter option, featuring hooked rims and titanium spokes for weight savings. The WH-M9220 (Trail) version is built to handle more abuse, with a hookless design, wider internal width, and j-bend spokes for easier serviceability. Engagement from the new hub system is quick at 3.5°, and both sets roll on updated seals for longevity.

  • WH-M9200 (XC): Hooked bead, 29.6mm internal, 1,175g
  • WH-M9220 (Trail): Hookless bead, 30mm internal, 1,791g
  • Titanium or j-bend spokes depending on model
  • Hubs feature 3.5° engagement and improved sealing
  • MSRP: $1,399.99 (pair, WH-M9220)
Pricing is for the trail wheelset (WH-M9220) with standard spokes. Pricing for the XC wheels is TBA.

Edit: Pricing is a moving target today. I've updated the XC and Enduro wheelsets based on actual retailers.
 
Interesting that they are claiming:


[*]New brake fluid and lever design with consistent bite point

As that has obviously been an issue for us. Also interesting that mineral oil is not cross-compatible with other brakes. We knew this all along, because there are no actual mineral oil standards, but some liked to pretend that you could. And in some cases you may not damage them, but working correctly is another thing
 
Discussion starter · #9 ·
Interesting that they are claiming:


[*]New brake fluid and lever design with consistent bite point

As that has obviously been an issue for us. Also interesting that mineral oil is not cross-compatible with other brakes. We knew this all along, because there are no actual mineral oil standards, but some liked to pretend that you could. And in some cases you may not damage them, but working correctly is another thing
Bite point has been consistent thus far, but I also didn't have major issues with prior versions, so long as I had a good bleed to begin with.

I also haven't had issues with pad contamination when letting the bike sit for extended periods, but I'll be keeping an eye on that.
 
No one is mentioning the elephant in the room. Shimano just put cartridge bearings in hubs for the first time.
Surely the elephant in the room is that most frames need a Sram UDH to hang Shimano derailleurs. (yes I know there are aftermarket options).
 
Bite point has been consistent thus far, but I also didn't have major issues with prior versions, so long as I had a good bleed to begin with.

I also haven't had issues with pad contamination when letting the bike sit for extended periods, but I'll be keeping an eye on that.
The lever bite issue happens on very steep sustained descents, like 35% grade and higher, where you are on brakes for a long time w/quick “resets” for terrain…OR in very cold temps, but talking below freezing.
 
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The lever bite issue happens on very steep sustained descents, like 35% grade and higher, where you are on brakes for a long time w/quick “resets” for terrain…AND in very cold temps, but talking below freezing.
"Quit moving your arm like that." ;)
 
Pretty sure that's been a thing for a bit. Their latest Gen hubs went cart.
Well, first time in "nice" hubs I think. The Cues level stuff has some cartridge bearings. Shimano still uses loose balls in the M8100 and M9100 hubs. Are there cartridge bearings used in any other upper tier hubs?
 
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