Was just looking at my old V1 shock the other day and it got me thinking and pretty bummed. Remember when we were sold on shock of a lifetime for $1200 back then? Always upgradeable, able to swap to new bikes, upgrade over time, etc... Only to find out that we couldn't even bring it to the next bike because of their software and some crap with changing to the R series. Anyone else get burned by that and now have an extremely expensive paperweight?
PUSH- Shock of a lifetime????
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Was just looking at my old V1 shock the other day and it got me thinking and pretty bummed. Remember when we were sold on shock of a lifetime for $1200 back then? Always upgradeable, able to swap to new bikes, upgrade over time, etc... Only to find out that we couldn't even bring it to the next bike because of their software and some crap with changing to the R series. Anyone else get burned by that and now have an extremely expensive paperweight?
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I've still got one..... and awesome bit kit. It's now on my claymore.
Suspension tech shock is a better custom tuned shock thats comparable to the old 11-6. That thing is freaking awesome.
I have one of those too......
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I get burned like that every time I buy a new bike. I get the best brakes which could be put on my next bike. I get the best fork which could be put on my next bike. I get the best pedals that could be put on my next bike. I get the best dropper which could be put on my next bike. Invariably, when I get a the next bike, my parts are worn out and antiquated. Luckily, there's Pinkbike and Facebook Marketplace to get rid of all your old junk.
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I wonder if there is an industry where that is not the case.
I am still holding on to my windows 95 computer, laserdisc, betamax, 8 track tape and 8” floppy disk reader for that matter while refusing to use anything but a flathead screw.
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I had an enraged college professor once tell me that I had a keen ability to bullshit others and especially myself…I use that keen ability to bullshit myself almost every single time I buy anything bike related, and it’s almost always “this will be a long term…..”
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How far off is it from fitting your new bike?
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We did have a brief period in time between the V1 and R-Series where we were not at our best from a customer experience. We listened and adjusted. Over the last couple of years, we have had several options available for customers in your situation, with more to come soon. If you have a V1 and are looking for a shock for your new ride, we're happy to discuss how we may help.
I understand your frustration and do apologize. Best to reach out to sales@pushindustries.com
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I got burned by Cane Creek on my ~2004 CCDB.
After swapping bits and riding a few rides a week every week it finally got a pinhole leak on the head.
Fecking Cane Creek refused to provide spares for a shock older than some of their staff... Bastards!
Well at least I got support before hand.
Push loves to offer to help, but it never happens!
After swapping bits and riding a few rides a week every week it finally got a pinhole leak on the head.
Fecking Cane Creek refused to provide spares for a shock older than some of their staff... Bastards!
Well at least I got support before hand.
Push loves to offer to help, but it never happens!
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I lose total confidence in any salesman who says, "this'll be the last _ you'll ever buy!"
I perceive that line as being scammy/scummy. It'll be an expensive lesson that it should be quite clear that if development continues work on new versions, that what you get is going to be dated.
I recall seeing similar lines being used for pillows, boots, suits, and all sorts of other things that are quite personal...
I also had a CC shock that had spherical eyelets that they said I was out of luck with, regarding fitting it to another bike.
I perceive that line as being scammy/scummy. It'll be an expensive lesson that it should be quite clear that if development continues work on new versions, that what you get is going to be dated.
I recall seeing similar lines being used for pillows, boots, suits, and all sorts of other things that are quite personal...
I also had a CC shock that had spherical eyelets that they said I was out of luck with, regarding fitting it to another bike.
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Why did spherical eyelets prevent fitting to another bike?
I've had no issues doing that?
I recently bought an SV8. Got to say it was one of the best experiences I have had buying any product. The shock is fantastic (coil performance at Float X2 weight). I felt like an important customer to them and had direct email comms with Darren. I don’t care if it goes on my “next bike”, which is MY choice not theirs. It is very high quality, over delivers on performance, and is simple to install, setup, and use. Push knows what they are doing. i recommend them. Instead of buying a bike with Factory Suspension, buy the lower spec and get an SV8. The net result would be a superior riding bike (But don’t skimp on the brakes!)
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Joking right? The big movers in the industry have been working very hard to make your bike obsolete for the past couple of decades. Hub width, all possible tube diameters, wheel diameters, shock lengths, #gears, shifters, derailleurs. Pretty much every single part on a bike, minus saddles and grips, has been made obsolete by design, and arguably mostly by irrelevant changes in size.
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It had nothing to do with the spherical bearing mounts. The change from V1 to R-Series was a big step as we changed the main piston assembly architecture as well as the compression valve architecture. This created completely different damping profiles and characteristics that were not backwards compatible with our previous V1 tunes. It was a mistake on our part not to develop semi-cross-compatible R-Series tunes for the V1. At the time, the decision was made as we viewed it as reducing the performance of the R-Series. In hindsight, we understand the value of developing parallel V1 and R-Series shocks for a transitionary period.
As I mentioned, we got it wrong initially, but adjusted and developed tunes and trade-in programs to put us back on track. We made a mistake and learned from it.
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Awesome!
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Don't I know it....I have a 2021 bike that uses imperial shock sizing. Apparently, I'm supposed to have snapped the frame by now and upgraded to the new model with metric sizing.
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It depends a little. I don't like to sell my old bikes, one downside of going custom is that if you do sell you'll have the dilemma of selling it with the stock shock or with the custom coil. The next user may not be keen on it (personally I'd prefer the stock offering) as they could be 120kg to your 60kg or vice versa. In which case you wind up with a shock sitting in a drawer for ever.
(Where one decides to leak all it's oil out 🤣)
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Yeah I'm confused, the eyelets aren't any wider than normal hardware. I have them on my TTX and they are narrower than some other shocks I have.
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