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#42 ·
dotcodotuk said:
Does anyone have a link to this that works or has previously downloaded the file and can share it? Wanted to read through the installation guide in preparation for buying a V2 and all I get is this.

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Mine should arrive on Tuesday. I can take photos of the written instructions if they’re not available online anywhere.
 
#43 ·
Here you go!

I just installed a v2 on my ohlins dh38.

Too snowy/rainy to ride though. I do have some top out noise occurring but it was happening on the air spring too. I’m guessing because I’m heavy and at the top end of main air spring pressure and now heaviest spring options for coil, that it’s overpowering the rebound damping. Hoping I can get the damper revalved….

dotcodotuk said:
Does anyone have a link to this that works or has previously downloaded the file and can share it? Wanted to read through the installation guide in preparation for buying a V2 and all I get is this.

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#45 ·
Rowyobike said:
Here you go!

I just installed a v2 on my ohlins dh38.

Too snowy/rainy to ride though. I do have some top out noise occurring but it was happening on the air spring too. I’m guessing because I’m heavy and at the top end of main air spring pressure and now heaviest spring options for coil, that it’s overpowering the rebound damping. Hoping I can get the damper revalved….
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How much do you weigh? I'm thinking the Vorsprung kit is better overall than the Ohlins coil conversion kit despite a little bit of extra cost and weight.
 
#46 ·
Did you guys use the Vorsprung spring calculator before ordering? When I run my info through it I end up in between spring weights depending on how I self-assess my strength-weight ratio.
 
#47 ·
Nat said:
Did you guys use the Vorsprung spring calculator before ordering? When I run my info through it I end up in between spring weights depending on how I self-assess my strength-weight ratio.
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Just order both. I don't know anyone, myself included, who didn't end up with multiple springs for every coil fork/shock, believing it could perform better than it does with any specific spring. Sell the one you decide not to use or keep it for varying terrain.
 
#48 ·
Christopher Robin said:
How much do you weigh? I'm thinking the Vorsprung kit is better overall than the Ohlins coil conversion kit despite a little bit of extra cost and weight.
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255 lbs, I should be on either a 65 or 70. Which fyi 65 is the max for a 200mm according to Vorsprung. Apparently the 70 binds a bit. They are working on a solution however.

I like heavy compression damping so I’m getting my damper revalved and that should set me up well with the 65.
 
#49 ·
I have been messing about with the Calculator trying to see what it changes with different inputs and spotted something - Spring Rate increase as Age decreases, when all other variables are equal.

For example, 30-year old me would be 65lbs where 40-year old me would be 60lbs and 50-year old me would go down to 55-lbs.

Is it using age as a barometer for how hard one might ride?! :LOL:

It also only seems to throw up a message about re-valving (For spring rates of 65lbs/in and higher you may need to consider a damper re-valve to ensure there is adequate rebound damping...) under specific circumstances, like being a World Cup/EWS Pro or riding very Steep terrain, even if it recommends 65-lbs with other options.
 
#52 ·
Hi you all' I have been fidling with the V2 inside a Fox 150 36 fork for some time now.

First i had it preloaded as described.
But..I thought it was to far in sag so i gave it a bit more preload.
Now it gave a tick sound when the fork returned to topout. Okay that was the top out spacer hitting. When i gave the damper more rebound the sound was gone.
But i thought lets set the preload spacer back again to a low setting , as described .
Installed again and now there is that tick! Sound when compressing the fork.
Somewhere in the first 40% of the compression.
What can that be? Not enough compression? It sounds different than the topout click.
 
#54 ·
Installed Smashpot v2 on my 38 last week, couple rides in and I'm super impressed. Had to slow LSR/HSR a fair bit as I was getting a crazy topout noise pulling for trail gaps or manuals, after confirming it was installed correctly with Vorsprung. I think a couple factors lead to this, no friction on the return from deep travel with the coil vs. air, was running really fast rebound to get the fork to track ground better which isn't needed now, and I'm probably running a comparatively stiffer spring vs. my air PSI. Climbing traction at slow speed is actually what seems to be the most improved, fork just hugs the ground. Stoked to get more time on it and put it through the paces!
 
#55 ·
I just bought a used RS Boxxer 38 Base (Charger 3 RC) off PB. Steerer tube was stupid short and air spring/travel wasn't the correct length I was looking for, but it was stupid cheap ($600) and was in decent condition. S4 Suspension will replace the steerer tube with a new one + supply me with a smashpot v2 kit for it. Love the fact that I can adjust the travel, but my only concern now is the charger 3 damper and the performance (I've read reviews of the charger 3 RC2 being too harsh, but haven't seen anything on the RC version cause no one ever reviews the base versions lol).

I'll update again once I get everything for installation.
 
#56 ·
I just swapped in a V2 for a V1 (long story) on a Zeb on my Turbo Levo, but now I'm bottoming out hard with the dial fully closed - anyone else experienced this?

I also ran the V1 dial fully closed, but I'd only smack the bottom on the biggest drop on my local trail, but now I can nearly bottom on big jump lips! I'm 168 lbs on a 48 lbs ebike with 40 lbs spring with 20% sag.

The manual has no mention of shim swapping to increase bottom out resistance - is this no longer an option?
 
#57 ·
johnsogr said:
I just swapped in a V2 for a V1 (long story) on a Zeb on my Turbo Levo, but now I'm bottoming out hard with the dial fully closed - anyone else experienced this?

I also ran the V1 dial fully closed, but I'd only smack the bottom on the biggest drop on my local trail, but now I can nearly bottom on big jump lips! I'm 168 lbs on a 48 lbs ebike with 40 lbs spring with 20% sag.

The manual has no mention of shim swapping to increase bottom out resistance - is this no longer an option?
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How much bath oil are you running? According to the manual (V1 manual), the V1 runs 10ml more bath oil. Not sure if this is the issue, but this manual also goes over the HBO tuning.
 
#59 · (Edited)
johnsogr said:
I did the 80 mL from the V2 manual - has anyone had a V2 apart and seen if the shims are swappable like in V1? I'd look but if someone already knows, I don't want to go through the trouble.
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Edit: disregard, I read your initial post as swapping in a v1 inplace of a v2, not the other way around like you said.
 
#60 ·
johnsogr said:
I did the 80 mL from the V2 manual - has anyone had a V2 apart and seen if the shims are swappable like in V1? I'd look but if someone already knows, I don't want to go through the trouble.
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It has a pretty firm stack, I soften mine up a bit so I have more usable range on the HBO adjuster. You can swap in a few thicker shims and make up for it with the clamp shims. I talked to the tech guy at Vorsprung and he said as long as the overall stack height is the same there shouldn't be any problem.

The stock shim stack configuration is - 5x 9.0x18.0x0.1mm (Face shims - against base valve), - 2x 9.0x16.0x0.2mm, - 2 x 9.0x 11.0x0.2mm (Clamp shims - against footstud)
 
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