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#41 ·
BigSurSurfer said:
Cuz young impressionable people read this stuff and then go get a big snake tattoo on their forearm that ends on the back of their left hand (visible below the cuff is my meaning) not realizing that ten years later they might be sitting in front of me for a job interview. Call me a dick or judgmental if you want to but if I have two candidates exactly alike but one has tats and one does not, ... the guy without is getting hired EVERY time. And there are millions of others who think just like I do. The reality of it is that no matter how much the 80% would like for it to not be true, ... tats can and often do cause lost employment, dating, and social opportunities.
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#43 ·
BigSurSurfer said:
Notice I said, ... "predominantly." Please don't let me stop you though from going into detail about your Maori culture and the spiritual importance of facial tattoo patterns dating back thousands of years.
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I notice that you are "predominantly" wrong, too. You are serving up a dose of stereotyping with your judgment. And it just isn't true. 100 years ago, they were considered signs of wealth. 1 in 10 Americans had them back then, too......far more people than could be accounted for by just prisoners and sailors.

But even still, what difference does it make? "Trickle up" fashion and trends are hardly unique to tattoos. You tell your kid to avoid blue jeans, too? Blue jeans used to be a working person's trouser, yet now, people will spend $500 on a pair of them.....more than they'd pay for the nicest pair of Brooks Brothers or Saville Row slacks. Don't dare modify cars? Hot Rodding "predominantly" came from greasers in the 50's with little money, dropping V8's into old Model A's, but is now a multi billion dollar industry churning out $500,000 cars on a regular basis. NASCAR started with moonshiners and has become a billion dollar industry attracting in some cases former F1 drivers.

I'm sure there are folks like you out there, who are going to judge someone for having a tattoo. And I'm sure that there are folks who run companies or sections or whatever like that. There are also people in high levels who hold views were consider bigoted or racist, as well. But those people are a dying breed, because they are automatically eliminating huge swaths of people with tons of potential, and high achievers are rarely going to gravitate towards them.
 
#44 ·
BigSurSurfer said:
Also, ... no offense Hun but why emulate a trend that started predominantly with prison inmates and sailors?
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Tattoos have been around for 5,000 years. They are used in a number of cultures for various reasons.

BigSurSurfer said:
If I want to better myself or present myself to the world as unique, ... why not work on my vocabulary or my learnedness or my command of a rare skill.
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I have one tattoo. It's covered. It's for me and it represents a time in my life where things could have gone "non-existent" very quick. I chose to carry a symbol with me to remind me that I am resilient and there will be better days.

I'm also an environmental lawyer.

Here's a concept for you, a person CAN get a tattoo AND work on their vocabulary or their learnedness or their command of a rare skill. You know, like walking and chewing gum at the same time.

BigSurSurfer said:
I've never seen a tat make anyone appear more attractive, ... more erudite, ... or more classy. Period.
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I resect your right to your opinion. I don't find random tattoos here and there to be attractive, and sure some people get them for the sake of it, but that's them. Some people get tattoos to honour something, or for a meaning, and I'm not going to judge anyone based on whether they have a tattoo. But you do you. Not sure how a tattoo influences someones ability to show a depth of knowledge or learning - frankly I think that is a really stupid point to have made.

BigSurSurfer said:
If I take care of my body and treat it as a Bentley or Lamborghini, ... I don't want a bumper sticker on it. I might put a bumper sticker on the used Toyota I had back in grad school but if I had enough money to own an Aventador, ... there wouldn't be any f$#%#@! bumper stickers on it, ... fo sure!
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Yes, you are the personification of a Lamborghini. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: I nearly kept a straight face typing that out...

Sorry to be that guy, but I think your attitude is ****. You could have just ignored the thread, but nope had to come along and piss on somebody's campfire. Grow up, shut up and get off the fucking lawn.

I got a tattoo idea for you, it's a "W" followed by an anchor.
 
#45 ·
67King said:
I notice that you are "predominantly" wrong, too. You are serving up a dose of stereotyping with your judgment. And it just isn't true. 100 years ago, they were considered signs of wealth. 1 in 10 Americans had them back then, too......far more people than could be accounted for by just prisoners and sailors.

But even still, what difference does it make? "Trickle up" fashion and trends are hardly unique to tattoos. You tell your kid to avoid blue jeans, too? Blue jeans used to be a working person's trouser, yet now, people will spend $500 on a pair of them.....more than they'd pay for the nicest pair of Brooks Brothers or Saville Row slacks. Don't dare modify cars? Hot Rodding "predominantly" came from greasers in the 50's with little money, dropping V8's into old Model A's, but is now a multi billion dollar industry churning out $500,000 cars on a regular basis. NASCAR started with moonshiners and has become a billion dollar industry attracting in some cases former F1 drivers.

I'm sure there are folks like you out there, who are going to judge someone for having a tattoo. And I'm sure that there are folks who run companies or sections or whatever like that. There are also people in high levels who hold views were consider bigoted or racist, as well. But those people are a dying breed, because they are automatically eliminating huge swaths of people with tons of potential, and high achievers are rarely going to gravitate towards them.
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Each to their own bro, .... if your son or daughter is before me with visible tats applying for a job and there is another candidate who is exactly equal to your son or daughter but without tats, ... the person without is being hired. Take that however you wish.
 
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#46 ·
67King said:
I notice that you are "predominantly" wrong, too. You are serving up a dose of stereotyping with your judgment.
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LOL, you did NOT disappoint!

BigSurSurfer said:
I am not trying to be mean, ... but you need to hear it from someone, ... those ski tats with flowers, ... that looks pretty white trashy.
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Like I said, you did NOT disappoint! And no, you aren't trying......you are succeeding.

Funny to think the anti-tattoo person here likely holds the stereotype that tattooed people are @$$holes, yet he is the biggest @$$hole here.

And a reminder.......I do not have a tattoo.

OP.....the lawyer I mentioned has a pretty cool tattoo of a "pinup" type girl riding a bike on his right calf. Funny thing about it all is that he's a super religious, te-totaller type. Doesn't drink, doesn't curse, and his wife (also tattooed) gets pretty bent out of shape when people around her curse. No idea if the tattoo pre-dates the marriage, or maybe the pinup is supposed to be her (they both ride...and yeah, she's pretty attractive), or if your wife would go for something like that, but that is one pseudo biking tattoo I've seen.
 
#47 ·
BigSurSurfer said:
Each to their own bro, .... if your son or daughter is before me with visible tats applying for a job and there is another candidate who is exactly equal to your son or daughter but without tats, ... the person without is being hired. Take that however you wish.
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They wouldn't accept working in an environment, likely at a lower pay grade, that you create. And they won't be the ones being hired very long, either.
 
#48 ·
BigSurSurfer said:
My grandmother has saggy tits but makes excellent dumplings. She is so kind and warm despite her long saggy breasts. Therefore saggy tits should be accepted and perhaps even preferred. ... Specious.
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How many times are you going to repeat this goofy analogy, it’s sounds like something a 3rd grader would say.

OP, congrats on your tattoo!
 
#50 ·
BigSurSurfer said:
Call me a dick or judgmental if you want to but if I have two candidates exactly alike but one has tats and one does not, ... the guy without is getting hired EVERY time.
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BigSurSurfer said:
In the same manner that I won't be hiring a male attorney who has three large earrings in his right ear, ... I won't be hiring a male attorney with visible tats, ... EVER. Same for any other professional class person who services I might need. And I ain't alone, ... tens of millions think just like I do.
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First, sorry to the OP for further polluting what should be your enjoying your new tattoo.

@BigSurSurfer- For someone who claims to be "a professor of electrical engineering" you have a remarkably closed mind. I feel sorry for whoever ends up taking class from you, much less anyone you "hire", as you clearly put a higher value on people's looks than their value. It is also pretty clear, you are sexist and possibly racist also. You are a pathetic human.

As an additional point, the fact you think that young impressionable people are cruising the 50+ forum, it hilarious. Young people don't even go to forums. Perhaps you can go find an old usenet forum to go hang out at.
 
#53 ·
What’s trashy is using your grandmother in this context to prove a point in a public forum. FWIW, your reasoning is the main reason I didn’t get a tattoo. Your argument is valid, just not as important in today’s environment. I’m focused on outcomes and tattoos are not a risk factor for poor performance to the degree you think IMO.
 
#54 ·
BigSurSurfer said:
As many times as it takes to convince young people who come across this thread ......
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Let me help you out with a few things:
1. Young people don't use forums, they use TikTok
2. Even if they did, they damn sure aren't going into the old geezer forum - if you hadn't noticed, this is the 50+ forum
3. Finally, all you are doing is making anyone reading this who was on the fence (that would include hypothetical "young" person who stumbled in here accidentally while doing a search for what a "landline" is) MORE, not less, likely to get a tattoo.

Shouldn't you get back to running people off of your lawn, and yelling at clouds?

On edit, I will say this - you've started adding the "visible" disclaimer. Last I checked, no one in here is talking about face, neck, or even hand tattoos. Almost everyone has indicated that the tattoos in discussion are easily hidden with professional attire.
 
#56 ·
The good news gents is that one of the super moderators may soon ban me. You'all can break out the champagne soon!
 
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#57 ·
BigSurSurfer said:
The good news gents is that one of the super moderators may soon ban me. You'all can break out the champagne soon!
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Keep it on topic and civil. This is your last warning.
 
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#58 ·
BigSurSurfer said:
Since several attorneys seem to be present in this thread (or at least they say they are attorneys for whatever worth that carries on the internet thingy), the inclusivity of tattoos can be put to the test easily:

Picture yourself as a senior partner at a criminal or civil law firm. You are in charge of conducting interviews and need to hire a new counselor who has courtroom experience and can be trusted in front of juries. Do you:

A - Believe the qualified attorney with no visible tats?

or,

B - Hire the equally qualified attorney with visible tats?

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

No senior partner anywhere in America is hiring B. Get #$%#$@! serious. That is the lie of tattoo inclusivity right there.
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Now, picture yourself in a jury box. You are looking at two guys telling mutually exclusive narratives of an event that happened. You aren't sure who to trust. Do you:

A. Hire the guy who looks like all the generic Baby Boomer white collar corporate stiffs.

or,

B. The guy whose story is equally persuasive, but looks like you*?

"You" could be female, a minority, single father........or a person with a few tattoos.

The SMART senior partner is going to be sure that his defense lawyers are going to be relatable to people who are in the jury. You can wish all you want that no person in a jury box has inherent biases, but it is human nature. Every person alive has them. And the SMART lawyer is going to look over and see if most of the members of that jury are wearing New York Yankee T-Shirts, he is going to keep his Boston Red Sox hat hidden away. The SMART lawyer is going to bring up guys lie Lou Gherig, and not bring up Ted Williams.

The LAST thing he is going to do is shout out to the world that the Yankees stink, and he is a superior baseball fan to them because of his Red Sox fandom. If that doesn't make sense, swap out the teams with political parties.
 
#59 ·
AlpineVulpine said:
Keep it on topic and civil. This is your last warning.
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You removed about ten of my posts, ... all of them in which I was being civil. F#$! your one sided moderating.

Sorry bro, ...not everyone is approving of tats. Millions are just like I am. (actually, .. tens of millions.)

Perma ban away!!! Happy to leave this place.
 
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