I see that NOBL now is a USA company. Nice workaround for any tariffs. I wonder if it was a direct response or if the timing is simply coincidental?
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Very cool.
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They are still in Canada. You can go back to running Vertical Scope now
Domestic manufacturing now adds them to my wheel consideration list. Pretty sweet. Thanks for sharing.
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Wonder is that's Fanatik doing the builds? They still need to import the rims, straight from Taiwan or thru Canada from Nobl.
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It's sad to see Canada moving jobs to a lower-skilled developing country. Hopefully they'll be able to to invest in the local educational system so the quality doesn't decline.
What are you talking about?
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I thought their carbon rims were Asia-made. If they're assembling stuff here, I expect them to have new hires with a few dozen hours of wheel hand-building experience, compared to asian workers with thousands of hours of experience assembling.
On the bright side, they're not having to pay tariffs bringing I9 and CK hubs across the border twice to serve US customers, and passing such costs to the consumers. Only 1 tariff/duty for them to pay from Asia to US, without adding the one from Canada to US, as well.
twowheelmotion has it right. They're not moving office, but adding an additional US office, from what I understand.
On the bright side, they're not having to pay tariffs bringing I9 and CK hubs across the border twice to serve US customers, and passing such costs to the consumers. Only 1 tariff/duty for them to pay from Asia to US, without adding the one from Canada to US, as well.
twowheelmotion has it right. They're not moving office, but adding an additional US office, from what I understand.
Timing is coincidental. I bought some new wheels a few months back from Nobl and in one of my email conversations, it was mentioned that they were going to open a store in the US because they were losing customers because of duty tax for shipments over $800. I think I ended up paying an extra $180 between the duty tax + the brokerage fees involved. Added over 10% to the cost of the wheels
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Fortunate timing given our fine neighbors to the North have apparently become the enemy. I am so confused, if Denmark buys California does that make Canada the 51st or 50th state?
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I ordered a set during their last BF/Christmas sales and paid no taxes or import fees.... the wheels came in separate boxes and granted the per wheel cost was under $800.
They tried to do the same thing with my wheelset as well. However, due to weather delays, the 2nd wheel caught up with the first wheel at customs so I got to pay import fees for two separate boxes. I let Nobl know what happened and they offered to reimburse the brokerage fees since they are a flat rate and I had to pay them twice, but there was nothing they could (or would) do about the duty taxes.
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Because these measures are usually just for show and the devil's in the details. The rich and large businesses always carve themselves cut-outs and exceptions that allow them to circumvent whatever the flavor of the month is. How do you think they get away with not paying any taxes?
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Verticalscope, based on Toronto, purchased mtbr back in 2018.
I don't get the joke
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American here. Ordered a single rim ($450) that went thru customs on February 3rd 2025. Rim was delivered without issue.
Just got a letter from UPS today: it's an invoice for $283.21 to cover customs/govt charges/brokerage charges. Cant wait to start making phone calls and emails on monday....
Just got a letter from UPS today: it's an invoice for $283.21 to cover customs/govt charges/brokerage charges. Cant wait to start making phone calls and emails on monday....
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Please keep us updated how that goes. This sounds like much more than the 10% tariff. But it may include older tariffs and brokerage fees. But paying over 50% in fees and taxes basically kills the direct order from China. They removed the "minimi" $800 threshold for China.
Who are you planning to contact?
I don't need new wheels, but now I hate I didn't order rims last year.
Sarcasm alert: "I was told by the President himself, China wil pay the tariffs. Why are you sending the Invoice to me?"
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I sent an email to NOBL already; i will try and contact UPS on Monday as well to see if i can get anyone to double check the charges.
Despite getting the letter yesterday, the invoice was due on February 24th. I'll be sure to inform them that china should be paying this invoice
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