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I once rented a Giant Glory at a skifield, it was POS. Fork too stiff, rear shock same thing. I should go write a review in the Giant forum.
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Thankfully, Phoenix riding doesn’t really include any descent longer than 3 seconds
I just find it weird to say something like this. Mostly because I’ve found your posts to generally be useful and honest, and you anecdotally seem to be an accomplished rider. What you actually rode was a trail system that isn’t even on the radar of most beginner or intermediate riders in Phoenix.

Again, I understand you’re salty about a crappy rental. Curious to know the shop as most have moved away from offering rentals. I’m guessing Exhale Bikes, but could be wrong.
 
I just find it weird to say something like this. Mostly because I’ve found your posts to generally be useful and honest, and you anecdotally seem to be an accomplished rider. What you actually rode was a trail system that isn’t even on the radar of most beginner or intermediate riders in Phoenix.

Again, I understand you’re salty about a crappy rental. Curious to know the shop as most have moved away from offering rentals. I’m guessing Exhale Bikes, but could be wrong.
Yeah, some bad anecdotal information in the OP's assertions.
 
Not the bike's/brand's fault, but it does reflect poorly on the brand. A quick note to Spec letting them know their dealer is renting bikes that are poorly maintained could be at least a reasonable action if you're upset and just can't let it go. Or maybe just ask the shop why the bike's all clapped out?

Posting on an internet forum about bikes that a decent bike performs poorly if it's not maintained is more than a little lame.
 
That’s a pretty crappy build but, aside from the brakes, your experience reads like a byproduct of careless or even nonexistent maintenance rather than an issue of parts spec.
Yeah this is mostly not the bikes fault here. I do wonder about the brakes, but also every person has an opinion on brakes that will conflict with someone else's. (saying shimano sucks, or saying hope suck, or sram sucks etc when really it is just preference)
 
Rental bikes are the abused children of the cycling family. I'd never make a serious bad judgment on a brand/model/component based on a rental.
 
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Posting on an internet forum about bikes that a decent bike performs poorly if it's not maintained is more than a little lame.
OP is taking a beating here, think it's unwarranted. I think his main complaint is the bike shop is at fault for not maintaining the 'premium' bikes they have for rent, oddly enough he won't even mention the bike shop. The other complaint that Specialized has a crappy kit on their most popular MTB is Captain Obvious territory, but still valid.
 
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Yeah AW is definitely not the first choice I would send to you. Too bad, Browns Ranch wasn’t too far away and I’d say is better suited to XC.
Great to know! That’s where I was told to go when I asked and I was (and clearly mostly still am) completely ignorant of the area.

But on the other hand my brakes didn’t work so it’s probably for the best. :)
 
OP is taking a beating here, think it's unwarranted. I think his main complaint is the bike shop is at fault for not maintaining the 'premium' bikes they have for rent, oddly enough he won't even mention the bike shop. The other complaint that Specialized has a crappy kit on their most popular MTB is Captain Obvious territory, but still valid.
Meh. Would he even notice/care about the spec if the stuff worked as it should? My guess is probably not, or at least not enough to whine about it. I'm gonna toss him some cheese and call it a day with this one.

Cheap and crappy to go along with the boxed whine.
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I just find it weird to say something like this. Mostly because I’ve found your posts to generally be useful and honest, and you anecdotally seem to be an accomplished rider. What you actually rode was a trail system that isn’t even on the radar of most beginner or intermediate riders in Phoenix.

Again, I understand you’re salty about a crappy rental. Curious to know the shop as most have moved away from offering rentals. I’m guessing Exhale Bikes, but could be wrong.
Meh. Would he even notice/care about the spec if the stuff worked as it should? My guess is probably not, or at least not enough to whine about it. I'm gonna toss him some cheese and call it a day with this one.

Cheap and crappy to go along with the boxed whine.
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You seem angry which is fine since this is the Internet wheee the whole point is to get really angry at strangers. I’m ok with that, anecdotes of strangers can be frustrating sometimes.

Even if all the garbage had been working, I definitely would have noticed the truvativ bottom bracket. Friends don’t let friends, etc.

And the consensus here seems to be that this stuff that Spesh hangs off their expensive cheap bike is hot garbage that wears out really fast… which would seem to me to make my anecdotal experience perhaps not so anecdotal.
 
Ahh bike rentals. Specialized, believe it or not, actually has a rental-specific program where instead of retail, they actually offer a rental fleet program where they supply bikes to shops that just rent. Not excusing that hideously terrible parts group, but yeah..

As an induvial that has worked at seasonal rental shops and managed rental fleets, I can say that depending on the size of the fleet, chances of parts being swapped out to cheaper stuff due to over/misuse is a strong possibility. I would not hesitate to throw something on a bike to capture the rental business, if I had to.

I would also add that good help is really hard to find. I have hired people looking for shop jobs, and they get put on bike wash and demo fleet, get mad they aren't working on XTR, and quit. Managing a demo fleet pretty much is like, the worst job ever. Sh*t always breaking, renters show up late, next day returns, mostly always want the bike early, asked for a discount if something isn't prefect, bikes break all the time.

Sorry, OP that your rental was nothing spectacular.
 
You seem angry which is fine since this is the Internet wheee the whole point is to get really angry at strangers. I’m ok with that, anecdotes of strangers can be frustrating sometimes.

Even if all the garbage had been working, I definitely would have noticed the truvativ bottom bracket. Friends don’t let friends, etc.

And the consensus here seems to be that this stuff that Spesh hangs off their expensive cheap bike is hot garbage that wears out really fast… which would seem to me to make my anecdotal experience perhaps not so anecdotal.
I'm not angry, just logical...but thanks for projecting. I just think if you're going to blame someone, blame the right someone. Whining about something so common as crappy spec on a bike seems kinda...IDK, pointless since it's not just a Specialized phenomenon. Unfortunately, these days it's kind of industry wide with some worse than others.

Here's one example Santa Cruz Bronson - their starter spec called "R" for $5000...NX and a base level fork/shock combo. Add another $900 just to get to GX...and the prices just go UP from there. All on what's arguably a VERY good bike.
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And the consensus here seems to be that this stuff that Spesh hangs off their expensive cheap bike is hot garbage that wears out really fast… which would seem to me to make my anecdotal experience perhaps not so anecdotal.
Specialized, like all large bike companies, sells builds to hit budgets that people/shops/media say they need to hit.

Sacrifices will be made, by all of those companies to hit those budgets. The bike rented to you is the most budget/barebones option Specialized offers.

I don't rent bikes often, but when I have "premium" bikes had better build kits than what this shop rented to you. Add in the complete lack of maintenance, and you get the experience that you had.

This is not a Specialized issue.
 
This is not a Specialized issue.
if anything, Specialized would not be happy that a rental outlet was rolling out clapped POS bikes with their name on them. The whole underlying intent with rentals and large brands is to get people to buy bikes. That's why they call them demos, and not rentals
 
On a trip to Phoenix I rented what was described as a “premium full suspension bike.” What they had in my size (XL) turned out to be one of these in S5:


Yes, admittedly a rental bike, so you expect a few issues and try to forgive. And yes, the obvious corrosion in the bottom bracket area indicated a certain general lack of regard as to routine maintenance on the part of the shop that rented it to me.

However… this thing is an abomination. Aren’t we fond of talking about how it’s hard to buy a bad mountain bike these days? The Stumpjumper Alloy with SX Eagle is a glorified department store bike that retails for north of $2200. In particular:

- The dropper action was so stiff that it was very difficult to even drop the post with a thumb press - sometimes a whole hand was required. By the end of the ride my thumb was sore.

- The SX Eagle group would routinely refuse to shift at all despite many adjustments to cable tension. Often it would suddenly remember that it was supposed to shift nearly 30 seconds after I asked it shift, throwing the chain wildly around at the worst possible moment. I have seen vastly better performance from a $17 Shimano Altus derailleur. I also noted with grim amusement the Truvativ bottom bracket - SX Eagle must be the lone holdout for this obsolete garbage.

- But the star of this embarrassing show was the Tektro Gemini Comp brakes, which were without a doubt the worst brakes I have ever used on a bicycle, and that includes the used cantilever brakes on the Bianchi Volpe beater I used to ride to college classes in late 90s. They could not even suggest that the bike slow down, but were also very grabby / which required an adjustment to riding style where I would have to ride the brake hard well in advance of any turn or descent. Thankfully, Phoenix riding doesn’t really include any descent longer than 3 seconds - had this been on more alpine terrain the brakes would have made the bike legitimately dangerous. I can’t rule out that maintenance issues played a part here, but I have Shimano hydro brakes that I’ve neglected for years before and they’ve never behaved remotely like this.

The suspension was hot garbage but with the other issues I barely noticed. It’s shocking to me that Specialized put their name on a crap barge like this and then sells it for north of 2 grand. I’ve ridden budget bikes from Marin that are multiple leagues of quality above this one. What’s happening here Spesh?
Guy makes a choice to buy bottom of the line bike with low spec parts then complains at the bike company for what? You buying a bike with lower spec parts than you want?

Take accountability for your own actions man. You cheaped out and paid the price for that cheeping out.
Why didn't you buy the top spec bike to get all the top spec parts that you wanted?

This is typical entitlement at its best.

Somewhere there will be a grom whose parents could barely afford that bike absolutely loving the bike.
 
Guy makes a choice to buy bottom of the line bike with low spec parts then complains at the bike company for what? You buying a bike with lower spec parts than you want?

Take accountability for your own actions man. You cheaped out and paid the price for that cheeping out.
Why didn't you buy the top spec bike to get all the top spec parts that you wanted?

This is typical entitlement at its best.

Somewhere there will be a grom whose parents could barely afford that bike absolutely loving the bike.
Read it again. He just rented the bike bro, he didn’t buy it.
 
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