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New Years day ride. I was on the way up with my dog. Mint day. Blue skies. 65. Perfect dirt. Mellow scene. Good vibes. Lady is walking down the fire road, Trek Fuel in one hand, helmet dangling from the bars. No gear. Nothing. Just a bike and a helmet. In the other hand, her little beagle mix on a short leash. He seems nice. I asked if her bike was ok. My dog wanted to play. As my dog perked up, the lady freaked out. Lost it on me, completely. I was caught off guard so bad. She picked the bike up in her one arm and started charging off the side of the road down the hillside to escape me to the switchback below. I pleaded with her not to attempt to do that being as friendly as I could. She fired back at me with "my bike is fine! your dog is not on a leash what am I supposed to do!?" (and a whole bunch more not nice things). I was bummed since she didn't give me a chance to show her my dog is very well trained. She was really cute and seemed like she was just having a bad day. I finally talked her back up on to the road and got her to chill out. Said her dog was stepped on by a horse (we have open range horses everywhere here).

I felt really bad that she decided to leave. Brought her dog to go for a ride and didn't plan for al the extra people out there. I tried to get her to ride with me and hang out in a friendly non creepy way that didn't imply I was hitting on her in any sort of way shape or form, but nope.
 
Your mistake, going out New Year’s Day. Every person who has not moved in the last 50 weeks is out for their new exercise routine. Wait 2 weeks until they are back inside and the normal users are left.

If it makes you feel better I had a guy flip out the other day while I was walking my dogs and threaten to pepper spray me. He had a dog on a leash going crazy (presumably because he was) and I was more than 100 feet away. My dog have virtually no interest in other dogs and just walk by them (German Shepherds are not generally interested in playing with other dogs).
 
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Your mistake, going out New Year’s Day. Every person who has not moved in the last 50 weeks is out for their new exercise routine. Wait 2 weeks until they are back inside and the normal users are left.

If it makes you feel better I had a guy flip out the other day while I was walking my dogs and threaten to pepper spray me. He had a dog on a leash going crazy (presumably because he was) and I was more than 100 feet away. My dog have virtually no interest in other dogs and just walk by them (German Shepherds are not generally interested in playing with other dogs).
Whoa!! WTF?

Yes. New Years. I know..
 
She sounds like a Karen.

IMO, "leash laws" are only enforced if there's an incident. If the dog is well behaved, no enforcement. If the dog causes issues, then the leash law is enforced afterwards. I'm more apprehensive of a leashed dog (clotheslining me so-to-speak) than a doggie running loose.
 
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I have had innumerable shitty little dogs try to bite my ankles when riding by. I get pissed off when seeing dogs off leash. I think she must have had similar bad experiences to react that way.
If it's an off-leash legal area, I don't understand the anger. If it's not an off-leash legal area, I completely understand the anger.

There are some off-leash trails near me. Dogs must be licensed with the town and registered/tagged (not a free registration, it cost a small fee) to be allowed off-leash.

People will walk those trails, fully knowing that there are tons of off-leash dogs, and get mad that dogs are running around. Especially mad at me and my "vicious" dog, despite the fact that he is very well trained, not in the least bit aggressive and didn't even approach them.
 
If it's an off-leash legal area, I don't understand the anger. If it's not an off-leash legal area, I completely understand the anger.

There are some off-leash trails near me. Dogs must be licensed with the town and registered/tagged (not a free registration, it cost a small fee) to be allowed off-leash.

People will walk those trails, fully knowing that there are tons of off-leash dogs, and get mad that dogs are running around. Especially mad at me and my "vicious" dog, despite the fact that he is very well trained, not in the least bit aggressive and didn't even approach them.
I cannot tell you the number of times I have had people get upset my dogs are off leash when I am walking them off leash in an off leash area. My pat response has become: If you have an issue with my dogs being off leash, you should take it up with the park administrators, as this is an off leash area. I don't know what else to say, especially given these places are clearly marked as off leash at the entrances.
 
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If it's an off-leash legal area, I don't understand the anger. If it's not an off-leash legal area, I completely understand the anger.

There are some off-leash trails near me. Dogs must be licensed with the town and registered/tagged (not a free registration, it cost a small fee) to be allowed off-leash.

People will walk those trails, fully knowing that there are tons of off-leash dogs, and get mad that dogs are running around. Especially mad at me and my "vicious" dog, despite the fact that he is very well trained, not in the least bit aggressive and didn't even approach them.
pretty much my feelings as well.
No doubt OP has a wonderful pet but I would never assume a complete stranger is supposed to know how friendly my dog really is. People have varying comforts and experiences with them so out of courtesy I don't make a point of testing them.
If this is in a recognized off-leash area then the problem is hers but if not, just put your dog on a leash and this doesn't happen.
 
You're in an area where dogs should be leashed, and you equivocate some bullshit about how you don't need one, while your dog gets all up in her face.

You sound like the kind of pitbull owner that calls them 'velvet hippos' and calls all the attack/death statistics 'made up by haters :mad:'

Put your damn dog on a leash and respect other people's space.
 
I find the dogs not to be the problem. 95% of the time they are just having fun. Its the owners that are usually the bags of dicks. I had one lady scream at me for going to fast even though I stopped well in advance and did not get anywhere near close to her unleashed dog. I informed her politely that i will ride as fast as I damn well please.
 
I have had innumerable shitty little dogs try to bite my ankles when riding by. I get pissed off when seeing dogs off leash. I think she must have had similar bad experiences to react that way.
Yep, I usually give an irresponsible dog owner a bit of a tongue lashing when I see their dog off leash (at locations where they are supposed to be leashed at all times). Ive even made reports to the local S.O. and to Animal Control. In my County, dogs must remain leashed at all times.

Dog sh!t piles on or along the trail are another matter. Dont get me started...
 
New Years day ride. I was on the way up with my dog. Mint day. Blue skies. 65. Perfect dirt. Mellow scene. Good vibes. Lady is walking down the fire road, Trek Fuel in one hand, helmet dangling from the bars. No gear. Nothing. Just a bike and a helmet. In the other hand, her little beagle mix on a short leash. He seems nice. I asked if her bike was ok. My dog wanted to play. As my dog perked up, the lady freaked out. Lost it on me, completely. I was caught off guard so bad. She picked the bike up in her one arm and started charging off the side of the road down the hillside to escape me to the switchback below. I pleaded with her not to attempt to do that being as friendly as I could. She fired back at me with "my bike is fine! your dog is not on a leash what am I supposed to do!?" (and a whole bunch more not nice things). I was bummed since she didn't give me a chance to show her my dog is very well trained. She was really cute and seemed like she was just having a bad day. I finally talked her back up on to the road and got her to chill out. Said her dog was stepped on by a horse (we have open range horses everywhere here).

I felt really bad that she decided to leave. Brought her dog to go for a ride and didn't plan for al the extra people out there. I tried to get her to ride with me and hang out but nope.
If your dog was supposed to be on a leash you got the response you deserved. If your dog didn't need to be leashed shame on her for harshing your mellow.
 
New Years day ride. I was on the way up with my dog. Mint day. Blue skies. 65. Perfect dirt. Mellow scene. Good vibes. Lady is walking down the fire road, Trek Fuel in one hand, helmet dangling from the bars. No gear. Nothing. Just a bike and a helmet. In the other hand, her little beagle mix on a short leash. He seems nice. I asked if her bike was ok. My dog wanted to play. As my dog perked up, the lady freaked out. Lost it on me, completely. I was caught off guard so bad. She picked the bike up in her one arm and started charging off the side of the road down the hillside to escape me to the switchback below. I pleaded with her not to attempt to do that being as friendly as I could. She fired back at me with "my bike is fine! your dog is not on a leash what am I supposed to do!?" (and a whole bunch more not nice things). I was bummed since she didn't give me a chance to show her my dog is very well trained. She was really cute and seemed like she was just having a bad day. I finally talked her back up on to the road and got her to chill out. Said her dog was stepped on by a horse (we have open range horses everywhere here).

I felt really bad that she decided to leave. Brought her dog to go for a ride and didn't plan for al the extra people out there. I tried to get her to ride with me and hang out but nope.
You were way more nice than I would have been, I constantly get yelled at from people to control my dog, she's always off leash, I know my dog, super friendly loves most dogs and just wants to play.
If I come across people in the woods with their dog on a leash they either don't trust there dog, don't really know it or just afraid it will run off. It's sad because that's their domain
 
I can see where she's coming from if she's had poor dog interactions in the past (as I have). After their dog goes batchit crazy, it's either "he's never done that before", "He's always nice" or "oh, he just doesn't like bikes". That last one...more than once and uhhhh...what? I still like dogs, but dog owners don't all have their chit together.
 
Sorry Artest, but you're wrong in almost all of that. How in the world is someone who sees your dog on the trail supposed to know that they are well trained, nice and "just wants to play"?? All they see is a dog that's off leash and could possibly be a threat. My wife was out running in our neighborhood a few years ago and a "nice dog" came running across the street looking friendly, not barking or making any aggressive actions, jumped up and bit her in the face. Eight stitches later, she's home and really angry. If you're in an area with leash rules, keep your dang dog on a leash. I walk my dog all the time on the same trails I ride, but he's on a leash for his own protection and to make sure others aren't afraid of him. I came down a MTB trail a few years ago and around a corner was an unleashed dog on the trail. I tried to stop/avoid her, but ended up hitting her and going OTB in the process of trying to stop/avoid her. Thank goodness she wasn't hurt, but could have been killed. The owner was apologetic, but I let him have it anyway about protecting his dog and following the leash laws that applied there. Some dog owners are just dumb and don't realize the (very justified at times) fears that people might have of dogs.
 
You were way more nice than I would have been, I constantly get yelled at from people to control my dog, she's always off leash, I know my dog, super friendly loves most dogs and just wants to play.
If I come across people in the woods with their dog on a leash they either don't trust there dog, don't really know it or just afraid it will run off. It's sad because that's their domain
Again, a big crux of this conversation; is off-leash allowed?

If it isn’t, I don’t care how well trained and friendly your dog is…

Leash your damn dog.

If it’s allowed to have off leash, and you have a well trained dog, with flawless recall, absolutely, let the dog have some freedom.
 
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