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I love to build from scratch, and wish more brands offered frame-only options like Canfield, Banshee, and Deviate.
Don't most brands offer frame only?

Specialized, Ibis, Transition, Raaw, Giant, Trek, Norco, Santa Cruz...

I think it's really only Canyon, YT and Pivot that really don't offer frame only options, I think.
 
Don't most brands offer frame only?

Specialized, Ibis, Transition, Raaw, Giant, Trek, Norco, Santa Cruz...

I think it's really only Canyon, YT and Pivot that really don't offer frame only options, I think.
You can absolutely get Pivot frames. At this point you don't even really need to know any special to do so. To be fair, this is recent but I've been able to do it multiple times over the last three years, just had to know who to ask :)
 
Don't most brands offer frame only?

Specialized, Ibis, Transition, Raaw, Giant, Trek, Norco, Santa Cruz...

I think it's really only Canyon, YT and Pivot that really don't offer frame only options, I think.
They all tend to be a frame with shock whereas Canfield/Banshee/Deviate will sell you a bare frame...
 
Gotcha!

Then yes, I agree!
The strange thing is that all of those brands can presumably provide replacement frames for warranty purposes, so why not make them available to buy, especially YT who use "Uncaged" as a brand differentiator, but don't give their customers the option to build their own 'Uncaged' bikes...
 
I always do frame-up builds because it's fun. If I have to buy a complete bike because a frame isn't available, I end up swapping out most of the components for my preferred stuff anyway. Just started building wheels too. It's pretty easy, just takes some time and patience.

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I spent 18 years working in and managing bike shops BITD, but my version of building my own bikes is throwing together something functional, inexpensive, and low maintenance, which allows me to think about working on my bikes as little as possible and riding them as much as possible. All of my bikes are well built from quality (usually older) components and well maintained, but they do not have any extraordinary features, and they aren't much to look at.
 
I definitely enjoy building my own, and there's almost always at least one of my bikes in the process of an upgrade. I've never worked in a shop, but have been wrenching on my own bikes since I was a kid, installing parts upgrades in my BMX bike. I thank my dad (also a bike guy) for teaching me how to use tools from an early age.

My current major project is a build-up of a singlespeed from a Procaliber that got stripped of its parts to build a Supercaliber.
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Also in the works is a Hope brake upgrade for my gravel bike, which is following a drivetrain revision.
 
I always do frame-up builds because it's fun. If I have to buy a complete bike because a frame isn't available, I end up swapping out most of the components for my preferred stuff anyway.
Lately this has become my favorite approach. I've found some recent 'unloved' bikes with near perfect frames that I could buy for cheaper than a new frame by itself. Essentially I buy a "rolling frame" that will give me a lot of spare parts to sell once I strip everything off and build it back up.
 
My goal, being only about 3.5 seasons into MTB, is to get the componentry on my three bikes into a solid place. And then all future "new bike" purchases will be frame-only and a parts swap. The goal next year is to have a well spec'd Hardtail, Trail, and Enduro. Upgrade parts here and there as needs and opportunity arise. And then in a couple years think about purchasing a new frame. The enduro frame is currently the oldest (MY22), so that will be up next. But I think she has at least two more seasons in her.
 
There are way too many choices of each part for some product manager to choose for You. Fact, after most riders buy a complete bike they will spend piles of dollars over the next year or two changing out all the unwanted parts some product manager selected because their company got a good price on them, or they thought that's what you should ride based on how they ride or mis-guessed how you will actually ride the bike and last but certainly not the least, where in the world you will ride your bike. It might take a couple extra months, it will cost you more up front, but down the trail a couple of years, there will be no wasted money as you bought the parts you really wanted the first time. Besides, you are not going to get $hit for low end wheels, bar, stem, tires, seat etc etc.

Build your own bike, your way, the first time.

DT
Purveyor of fine frames.
I love building bikes; every MTB I own is a full frame up build. But I made countless mistakes buying parts and just still wanting to tinker with the builds has probably cost me tons of extra money. Would certainly have been cheaper for me (but much less fun) to start with a prebuilt and go from there.

Edit: but I suppose now, 4 builds later, I know pretty much exactly what I like. So future builds might actually be cost effective.
 
Working on bikes is therapy.
The best is when you have another bike to ride, and so the new build is something you can do with care and patience, over several weeks.

The worst is when you only have a day or two to put it all together because you need to take parts off your existing bike, and you want to have it ready for a certain day. The first ride is usually janky af because you are sleep deprived.
 
Built a DH bike last weekend from frame/components and absolutely loved doing it. I put in countless hours each year spannering DH race bikes for my boy and other DH racers and it's my happy place. Give me a beer, a field, gazebo and "we need this fixed in the next 34 mins before race runs" and i'm as happy as anyone on the planet. I've not yet failed to get anyone racing and will do my best to make sure i don't fail next year either :D
 
I've been building up my bikes since I was kid in the 80's. It was BMX bikes back then. I built up an V3 Evil Following in May 2024, to replace the V1 Following that was also a frame up build from 2019. The 2022 Occam LT I bought in Dec 2023 is my first complete bike...just because the price was just too good to pass up.

I do the servicing on my own bikes too. Suspension fluid/seal changes, brake bleeding, and all the other tune up related work. I don't like leaving my bikes at bike shops.

I also built up a Spitfire...but that was in 2016...which I still have. You can never go wrong with a Banshee.

In the end going frame up might cost more...but the "bargain" hunting and the actual build up of the bike is part of the mountain biking/cycling experience. I guess at the same time...since I'm building from the frame up...some of the parts from the previous bike can be moved over to the new one...so I'm not buying a bunch of new parts.
 
I bought this GT frame last month, it’s a 2014 Xizang 29er. I didn’t really need another bike, but it was too good a deal to pass up, and I have most of the parts I need to get it rolling.

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I put up another pic once I get it on the road.
The Xizang was my dream frame when I was working at a GT dealer in the early 90s. My first MTB in 1984 was a GT from a different GT dealer I worked for at that time.
 
I bought this GT frame last month, it’s a 2014 Xizang 29er. I didn’t really need another bike, but it was too good a deal to pass up, and I have most of the parts I need to get it rolling.

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I put up another pic once I get it on the road.
I've never seen a Xizang with a brushed finish. I though they were all polished. Were those exclusive to Japan? Or has that frame been re-finished?
 
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