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perfect! i bought the 8120 from jenson after hearing the 8100 would interfere with the rear triangle 😂 oh well i’ll just return it.

thanks for your help!
I’m running a 30t chainring, but looks like a 32 would be fine, too. If you had aspirations of a 36t or something maybe you’d need to push it outboard.
 
I'm selling my L Steezl frame if anyone is interested. It's broken down to the frame atm but could be a full bike again if you want it. Any interest, let me know.

Wonderful bike made by awesome people and a great brand, sadly life has other plans for me and the type of riding I bought this bike for isn't really something I can accommodate at the moment. When/if I'm able to get back there again, this would be top of my list to buy (again), but it feels wrong for it to sit there staring at me unridden, so I'm moving it along to someone else if there is interest.
 
I ordered the XO, Ext Storia/Era Steezl last week and haven’t been this excited about a bike in a while. It’s a size large with the longer stays, long stroke shock and 170mm up front. I am a bit concerned about the durability of the wheels on the stock build but will probably replace them after I beat them up. I am hard on wheels. It seems like a nostalgic throwback to my old handmade Intenses and the horst link turners I always lusted after but never pulled the trigger on. It’s replacing my 150 Mayhem which has been a great bike.

I plan on taking a Moab trip to break it in once it arrives and will make several trips to oil well flats until Colorado’s high country dries out.

I’ll post some pics and a review once I get it. Until then, I’ll keep surfing the bike porn here.
 
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I plan on taking a Moab trip to break it in once it arrives and will make several trips to oil well flats until Colorado’s high country dries out.

I’ll post some pics and a review once I get it. Until then, I’ll keep surfing the bike porn here.
I’m curious about your impressions of the ext kit as well as the comparison to the Mayhem. If you want company on a trip to oil well flats shoot me a pm. I’m not too far away.

S Mountain trails are riding ok if you don’t mind a little ice in shady spots. Went out yesterday to try out my 425lb spring and ‘long stroke’ coil. I don’t think I could tell a difference to the standard SDU Air in a blind test. Both feel really good.
 
I’m curious about your impressions of the ext kit as well as the comparison to the Mayhem. If you want company on a trip to oil well flats shoot me a pm. I’m not too far away.

S Mountain trails are riding ok if you don’t mind a little ice in shady spots. Went out yesterday to try out my 425lb spring and ‘long stroke’ coil. I don’t think I could tell a difference to the standard SDU Air in a blind test. Both feel really good.
I’ll definitely post up a mayhem comparison and EXT thoughts once I get time on it. I’m surprised the air and coil felt the same to you. I have ridden an 11/6 (just a demo for a day on my evil), the OG double barrel, a DHX and a romic if we go way back, and they all have been noticeably better than their air counterparts, with the exception of weight and poppyness.
 
I'm selling my L Steezl frame if anyone is interested. It's broken down to the frame atm but could be a full bike again if you want it. Any interest, let me know.

Wonderful bike made by awesome people and a great brand, sadly life has other plans for me and the type of riding I bought this bike for isn't really something I can accommodate at the moment. When/if I'm able to get back there again, this would be top of my list to buy (again), but it feels wrong for it to sit there staring at me unridden, so I'm moving it along to someone else if there is interest.
That Steezl still for sale?
 
That Steezl still for sale?
I believe I snapped this one up. First ride last night- glamour shots to come.

Are you making contact on yours?
During my build I did a bottom-out check (no air in shock) and the tire was very close to seat, but that was with a 210mm dropper and I later ended up raising it ~1". Size L frame, 434mm stays. 65mm stroke shock but the tire (2.4 DHR) does not hit the seat tube at bottom-out. My guess is that a 240mmm dropper would clear the seat by mm, it would be close for sure.
 
I believe I snapped this one up. First ride last night- glamour shots to come.



During my build I did a bottom-out check (no air in shock) and the tire was very close to seat, but that was with a 210mm dropper and I later ended up raising it ~1". Size L frame, 434mm stays. 65mm stroke shock but the tire (2.4 DHR) does not hit the seat tube at bottom-out. My guess is that a 240mmm dropper would clear the seat by mm, it would be close for sure.
Can you run the longer 65mm stroke shock with a 29er tire and the shorter stays? I thought this would cause a clearance issue.
 
All good. I've been lurking and reading up on both the SST and the SEEZL. Torn between the too. I know they are totally different. Just debating which is best for me and where I ride.
The Steezl is fairly responsive when setup right, not as much as the SST, but not as far off as you would expect. They both climb really well, the Steezl doesn't sprint or get rolling as fast, but still, it isn't far off either. The suspension performance on the Steezl is obviously going to eat up larger bumps better and carry speed through chunky sections better, but the SST tracks through these things better than most think the travel numbers would indicate, it just transmits more to the rider. When you are dealing with a lot of large chunky sections, the SST becomes more of a handful, while it holds the line fine, it won't carry speed through those types of sections as fast and you'll feel it more. Having both, there are clear differences, but they aren't as far off as you'd think either.

If my trails were more tight, twisty, and required more sprinting or punchy climbs, I'd probably do the SST. If my goal was purely responsiveness to pumping, popping off things, etc, the SST is probably better. If you have long, extended descents with rougher terrain, then the Steezl will be the better choice. If you are racing enduro or riding bike parks, same, Steezl. They can both do things the other does fine, but the SST will be more responsive at the cost of rough terrain speed and comfort while the Steezl will be the opposite.

You can also accomplish a lot with faster rolling tires if your terrain is more mixed. You can also give the SST more performance in rougher stuff with different tires too.

As a comparison point, if you are familiar with Pisgah, the top of Butter Gap has a mellow grade chute that has a lot of roots jutting out, some of which aren't exactly small. It's not steep, but it is rough and some bikes can be a workout on them, the mellow grade makes keeping speed harder. The SST holds a line through this section fine, but it won't carry speed as well and at the bottom, my arms/shoulders were more fatigued trying to ride it out because you are pumping and absorbing more. The Steezl clears through this section a lot faster and smoother, with less effort. There's a drop right after this section that is just above rollable height and is mostly to flat on a flat section, the SST is easier to get off this requiring less input, while the Steezl requires more body movement. Later on, when the trail becomes tight/twisty or you have some punchy climb sections, the SST gets around those better and with less effort, you can get off the saddle and punch up them like a SS bike and the twisty or short up/down sections, despite being slightly rough, happen with less effort and smoother. Popping off little features on the trail is easier with the SST than the Steezl especially on flatter sections. When you get to the staircases, the SST moves a lot more under you whereas the Steezl is smoother and you engage less with them.

Hope that helps some. Both are great bikes and I've been really surprised what I got away with on the SST. I think it's just gonna come down to your terrain and how often you ride rougher or steeper trails.
 
First proper ride today- thanks for passing on this fine frame @Adodero . Super stoked!

3,550' up & down in 16 miles. The bike was fantastic and I got a lot of comments on it. Seems like many people in Bellingham know Adam @ Reeb.
Really happy with the suspension performance, ride quality & fit. I have some decals on the way for the fork, and an Tannus insert for the rear tire, but otherwise I'm not feeling like anything needs to change. Maybe pull a volume spacer from the fork.
I have a second wheelset that is identical other than being mullet, so it'll be fun to see how that feels. My last few bikes have been mullet.
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The honeymoon continues, thanks to unseasonably warm & dry conditions here. Added some Slik decals on the forks, VHS tape to the chainstay & continuing with the suspension tuning. This thing rips for sure and pedals all day.
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