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Hey guys/gals,
Today wat the first day I rode my Mezzer and lived them. That being said I went with the recommended air pressure. They were very plush and supportive to say the least. Much better than the Rockshox Domain. My question is I hit the bigest drop I'm willing to hit. About 3 feet. I didn't feel it bottom and had total control when I landed. Very confidence inspiring. I will add a picture of how much travle I used. On the trail it felt great, I just don't know if I'm riding them to soft. View attachment 2074895
You’re on an ebike, that’s a good 20lbs more sprung weight than a regular bike… pretty sure air pressure suggestions are based on a standard bike’s static sprung weight right? I feel like a drop to a good landing won’t use much travel, a better test is steep rocky terrain where you have much more weight in front and the suspension is active with the weight on it.
 
You’re on an ebike, that’s a good 20lbs more sprung weight than a regular bike… pretty sure air pressure suggestions are based on a standard bike’s static sprung weight right? I feel like a drop to a good landing won’t use much travel, a better test is steep rocky terrain where you have much more weight in front and the suspension is active with the weight on it.
I did that on the trail I road and used about 50% travel. My bike is a good 55 lb and I'm 200lb with all my gear and backpack/hydration pack if that helps. Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it.
 
Hi, is Mezzer damper cartridge same lenght for 27,5" and 29"? Thanks
I believe it's the lowers that differ with wheelsize, the uppers & damper / airshock are common to all sizes(y)

Rich.
 
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I just received a new 29'' lowers and was checking bushings. It feels way too loose. My old 27.5'' mezzer also has bushings on a looser side but this one is even worse. There is very clear knocking from bushings. I tested it dry, no oil. After I added oil, the knocking was a bit silent but I could feel the play.

Here's a video, you got to turn the volume up. On the video only one stanchion is in.

Do you guys think this is too much free play? I was able to fit 0.07mm feeler in left side and 0.06mm in the right.



 
Hi, is Mezzer damper cartridge same lenght for 27,5" and 29"? Thanks
As @Zed. said it's the same. Only difference is the lower leg axle/brake position.

I just received a new 29'' lowers and was checking bushings. It feels way too loose. My old 27.5'' mezzer also has bushings on a looser side but this one is even worse. There is very clear knocking from bushings. I tested it dry, no oil. After I added oil, the knocking was a bit silent but I could feel the play.

Here's a video, you got to turn the volume up. On the video only one stanchion is in.

Do you guys think this is too much free play? I was able to fit 0.07mm feeler in left side and 0.06mm in the right.



0.06-0.07mm clearance is about perfect.
 
As @Zed. said it's the same. Only difference is the lower leg axle/brake position.



0.06-0.07mm clearance is about perfect.
Is that not the general consensus on optimal burnishing size also?

I wonder has anyone burnished .1mm and is that necessary? About to order a burnishing kit for all my forks (every size from 32-37 🥴) but still not sure which size to go for.
 
So I'm confused about what's going on with my mezzer.

I'm running 170mm on a 63.5° hta and I weigh 73-75kg (160-165lbs).

I've dropped my settings to

45psi main 65psi irt
Rebound open
LSC 3
HSC 4 (open)

I'm yet to use more than 140mm of travel. I've confirmed I can connect a pump and cycle the fork all the way through its travel.

Fork still feels as though it lacks enough rebound and braking bumps/repeated hits still feel a little harsh.

I'm planning to get lower ... 43/60 but I'm thinking I shouldn't need to go that low. Is there something I'm missing?

PS I'm talking to Oliver about getting a burnishing kit. Just trying to decide on size. .07 + .1 or just .08. According to Oliver it can be really hard to push a .1 die through the bushings so he recommends passing a .07 through first. I'm thinking a .08 might let me get away with just the one die rather than buying two.
 
Just off the top of my head I’d say you’re too low. Fork is super progressive at 160. Takes a massive hit to push through all the travel. The whole point of the Mezzer is spectacular mid stroke support through repeated hits. Your pressures are low so you might be blowing through the travel and hitting the harsh wall of progression. (HBO / IRT) But I don’t really know for sure. I’d be curious to see what other folks write.
 
Just off the top of my head I’d say you’re too low. Fork is super progressive at 160. Takes a massive hit to push through all the travel. The whole point of the Mezzer is spectacular mid stroke support through repeated hits. Your pressures are low so you might be blowing through the travel and hitting the harsh wall of progression. (HBO / IRT) But I don’t really know for sure. I’d be curious to see what other folks write.
I had it set much higher but repeated hits were violent and uncomfortable tbh. I started at the manitou recommended setting, dropped to the spreadsheet calculated setting which made it better and have dropped lower. Each drop has in fact resulted in a more comfortable ride. But I am surprised I'm still only using 140/170mm of the travel.
 
So I'm confused about what's going on with my mezzer.

I'm running 170mm on a 63.5° hta and I weigh 73-75kg (160-165lbs).

I've dropped my settings to

45psi main 65psi irt
Rebound open
LSC 3
HSC 4 (open)

I'm yet to use more than 140mm of travel. I've confirmed I can connect a pump and cycle the fork all the way through its travel.

Fork still feels as though it lacks enough rebound and braking bumps/repeated hits still feel a little harsh.

I'm planning to get lower ... 43/60 but I'm thinking I shouldn't need to go that low. Is there something I'm missing?

PS I'm talking to Oliver about getting a burnishing kit. Just trying to decide on size. .07 + .1 or just .08. According to Oliver it can be really hard to push a .1 die through the bushings so he recommends passing a .07 through first. I'm thinking a .08 might let me get away with just the one die rather than buying two.
I got the same feelings so far with mine.
170mm 64.6° and 71kg.

Tried between 35-43psi main and 55-67psi IRT, and the forks feels smoother with lower PSI.
Rebound open, HSC open and LSC between 1-4 from closed.

I cannot get full travel neither, but the fork is moving into its travel MUCH easier with higher temperature. Probably something not OK with bushings size / lower alignment. I explained this in the other topic. I'll try to call the support next week
 
I got the same feelings so far with mine.
170mm 64.6° and 71kg.

Tried between 35-43psi main and 55-67psi IRT, and the forks feels smoother with lower PSI.
Rebound open, HSC open and LSC between 1-4 from closed.

I cannot get full travel neither, but the fork is moving into its travel MUCH easier with higher temperature. Probably something not OK with bushings size / lower alignment. I explained this in the other topic. I'll try to call the support next week
I suspect bushings at the very least. On mine I also need to pull the lowers apart slightly to fit the wheel. It doesn't just slide in as with other forks over tried over the years. I have 4 manitou forks here and all of them seem if have the same tight clearance at the hub dropout so I just thought its a manitou thing. Maybe lowers are out of parallel.
 
By the way about this video from the first page :


Just pushing like he's doing is enough ? Does it remain well in the ideal position once you put back your wheel ?
I have not pulled it off to test it off the bike yet. Was planning to pickup a burnishing set then pull it part and see what's up.

Strangely, I had a mezzer pro setup on my Rascal at 140 travel and it felt much better. So curious if it's the slack hta that's causing something to bring up badly.
 
Weird. I run much higher pressures and have no issues bottoming it out at around 60M/90IRT PSI but the HBO makes sure it's not uncontrolled so I don't feel that I need to run it higher.
I tried lowering the pressure on mine but it just started to feel like crap.
Granted I do weigh more but it just seems insanely low with 45/55.
The fork has been running so good for ~6000 KM now but I had 2 warraties with CSU creaks. Crossing my fingers it won't happen again.
 
I suspect bushings at the very least. On mine I also need to pull the lowers apart slightly to fit the wheel. It doesn't just slide in as with other forks over tried over the years. I have 4 manitou forks here and all of them seem if have the same tight clearance at the hub dropout so I just thought its a manitou thing. Maybe lowers are out of parallel.
Mezzer has a slight lip on the dropouts so the wheel doesn't fall out when you remove the axle. You have to overcome this lip when inserting the wheel.
 
So I'm confused about what's going on with my mezzer.

I'm running 170mm on a 63.5° hta and I weigh 73-75kg (160-165lbs).

I've dropped my settings to

45psi main 65psi irt
Rebound open
LSC 3
HSC 4 (open)

I'm yet to use more than 140mm of travel. I've confirmed I can connect a pump and cycle the fork all the way through its travel.

Fork still feels as though it lacks enough rebound and braking bumps/repeated hits still feel a little harsh.

I'm planning to get lower ... 43/60 but I'm thinking I shouldn't need to go that low. Is there something I'm missing?

PS I'm talking to Oliver about getting a burnishing kit. Just trying to decide on size. .07 + .1 or just .08. According to Oliver it can be really hard to push a .1 die through the bushings so he recommends passing a .07 through first. I'm thinking a .08 might let me get away with just the one die rather than buying two.
What kind of riding do you do? Aggressive? I weigh same as you and feel good about 5-10% above recommended settings. I have been able to use full travel.
 
The poppy rebound tune option will help over stutters. I don't see any signs that you need softer compression right now. But you may know something you haven't mentioned.
So it has been a while but thought it necessary to check in.
Previously I had been running the following set up:
Douglas Pick n Mix, 170mm, IRT 90PSI, Main 60PSI, LSC 1-2 from closed, HSC fully open and rebound 3-4 from closed.

So last run out I decided to try 2:1 ratio of 100PSI IRT and 50PSI main... Was nicer but still a bit harsh...

So out two ays ago and decided to drop the pressures a little further... 98 IRT and 48 main... Wow... Previously on fast chatter I was getting my hands utterly hammered... Now much more bearable and will continue to tweak to see if I can improve further. 😎
 
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