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Discussion starter · #21 ·
Yeah, I have done second hand high end for many many years rather than mid range new.

I do love the idea of a high pivot bike. Druid or Deviate or go full boutique on a zerode gearbox bike or something similar.
If I wasn't building as a future project with the goal of learning some mechanics and choosing my own specs, I agree with you as midrange are pricy yet specced mediocrely.
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
Ok, I’d going with the Gen 6 Trek Fuel alloy frame. It a bit more at $2600.

I have a carbon Fuel EX factory kitted out with XT and it’s been amazing fun to ride. The geometry is adjustable, it has in-frame storage and garnered great reviews.

do a quick google search and there are plenty of reviews (written and videos) and a few build videos as well.

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I do like how they have made it with 3 different ways to change up the geometry at a flip.
 
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Stumpjumper Evo on sale for $1300

What's up with the pics under the frame on their site with a guy riding in his underwear?
 
Discussion starter · #26 · (Edited)
What I think you need to detail is how you ride, what you like to ride, what you have learnt you dont like then others may be able to help more with recommendations.
Right now I'm a noob with less than 6 months experience and I intend to move away from gravel and very light trails to more difficulty using a hardtail while I learn. I'm not interested in a Full Sus bike anytime soon for harder trails as I don't intend to over bike while I'm still learning. So this kind of project is at least a year or so off and I'm just gathering data and opinions.
 
Right now I'm a noob with less than 6 months experience and I intend to move away from gravel and very light trails to more difficulty using a hardtail while I learn. I'm not interested in a Full Sus bike anytime soon for harder trails as I don't intend to over bike while I'm still learning. So this kind of project is at least a year or so off and I'm just gathering data and opinions.
Well, that's different can of worms all together.
Probably should have led with that.
 
So this kind of project is at least a year or so off and I'm just gathering data and opinions.
You might be better off asking when you're actually ready to build. Things can change a lot in a year. These last two years...the bike industry did a 180 degrees...from when people were paying above retail...to now...with bikes at 50 to 60% off.

Right now is probably the best time to buy a bike. In a year...the market might have already corrected itself and the smoking deals you're seeing now...won't be available.
 
Oh, a hardtail! Totally different conversation. Get over to the Hardtail Party YouTube channel and look at his favorite bikes of 2022 (and look out for a potential 2023 video).
 
Keep it sane, not too heavy and between $1000 and $2000. Not too slack not steep. 65-67 degrees.
A 'Dream Build' is, from what I gather, a bike you want, not necessarily what is sensible to get. Thus in my case - Banshee Rune V1 with a Manitou Nixon 160mm and I9 first gen wheels. Bonus poinst for 1st gen saint groupset. Although 2nd get saint also works and you can swap crank with RF Atlases and brakes with Hope M6. You can probably pick individual parts for some peanuts and glass marbles at your local Craigslist.

Exchanging knife stab wounds or STDs might, or might not, happen. It's Craigslist after all.
 
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A 'Dream Build' is, from what I gather, a bike you want, not necessarily what is sensible to get. Thus in my case - Banshee Rune V1 with a Manitou Nixon 160mm and I9 first gen wheels. Bonus poinst for 1st gen saint groupset. Although 2nd get saint also works and you can swap crank with RF Atlases and brakes with Hope M6. You can probably pick individual parts for some peanuts and glass marbles at your local Craigslist.

Exchanging knife stab wounds or STDs might, or might not, happen. It's Craigslist after all.
LOL, sure I browse the really high end stuff wistfully but on a practible level since I live in a Condo I dont have the room to buy a bunch of second hand to strip the parts although I might get a frame that way.
 
wait, do you already have a hardtail and you're shopping for your next bike? Or don't have anything yet?

Honestly, although I'm old school and still think a hardtail can teach you some things, I don't think being comfortable on a hardtail is a prerequisite for anything in the modern world. Learn how to maximize the potential of a full sus from the start, and it will be a lot more forgiving of noob mistakes. It's a different riding style. If you ride a full sus bike like a hardtail, you will be leaving performance on the table. Like learning to drive w/ a manual transmission - sure, great skill to have, but mostly irrelevant unless you want that spice.

but if you already have a hardtail and are shopping for a bike a year out to build for the experience, jump on one of these full sus frame deals now and start accumulating parts! I agree w/what others have said though, you're not likely to save significant money over upgrading a complete bike on sale
 
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wait, do you already have a hardtail and you're shopping for your next bike? Or don't have anything yet?

Honestly, although I'm old school and still think a hardtail can teach you some things, I don't think being comfortable on a hardtail is a prerequisite for anything in the modern world. Learn how to maximize the potential of a full sus from the start, and it will be a lot more forgiving of noob mistakes. It's a different riding style. If you ride a full sus bike like a hardtail, you will be leaving performance on the table. Like learning to drive w/ a manual transmission - sure, great skill to have, but mostly irrelevant unless you want that spice.

but if you already have a hardtail and are shopping for a bike a year out to build for the experience, jump on one of these full sus frame deals now and start accumulating parts! I agree w/what others have said though, you're not likely to save significant money over upgrading a complete bike on sale
Thank you I am definitely looking to snap up a frame very soon as I don't think the deals are going to last forever and that is going to be the most expensive part. I'm certain I would not save that much money on a personal build over upgrading but building the bike and getting comfortable working on them is half the idea.
 
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