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#144 · (Edited)
Speaking of similar but different.
On road side, Zipp first released wavy wheels where the rim depth vary in wave to reduce air pressure buildup from crosswind. Making wheels slightly less aero but much more stable in gusty condition than a rim with consistent depth.
Princeton Carbonworks, a US company, make wheels with the same concept and similar execution of wavy wheels which vary in rim depth. But their wave still doesn't look the same. Zipp still sue them for patent infringement regardless.
A while later, LightBicycle release their version of wavy rim. But they are consistent in depth. LightBicycle wavy rim vary the width instead. The rim go wide blunt, then narrow, then wide again and so on. It operate on the same principle but the execution is totally different. Zipp did not and absolutely cannot sue them.

Eventually Zipp lost the case against Priceton Carbonworks in the court. But that's still a costly fight.
IMO it's like, Priceton Carbonwork managed to dodged the bullet. But LightBicycle didn't even get in fire range. So no need to risk dodging bullet.

Lewis here, get much closer to a patent gunner than Priceton Carbonworks did. It'd be harder to dodge the bullet if patent holder decide to shoot them with lawsuit.

EDIT: there maybe some typo left in there somewhere. I shouldn't type anything long in the morning.
 
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I want to try to change your guys perspective on Chinese companies and how they are tied together. Any bike part manufacturing company in China that has an online presence or sells on Alibaba/Aliexpress, could be an independent company, but more likely is part of a larger holding company that is then part of an even larger holding company that rolls up to being controlled by the Chinese government. If you try to dig into finding more about Lewis Brakes, all you can really find is that they have the same address listed as "Loonge Fishing Reels". Loongze Fishing|Loongze Fishing Reels|Loongze Reels|Loongze reel|CNC Fishing Reels - This site even uses the same online layout and colors as Lewis Brakes.

When a new company like Lewis Brakes is formed, we may never know how the design and product came into the market. It could be a larger holding company that backwards engineered the TrickStuff brake, or someone inside Lewis brakes. Most Chinese holding companies work together and even share IP to help each other out, versus our cut-throat system in the USA. Many of the smaller bike part companies use their parent holding company's manufacturing centers to have their product fabricated. It really is a different system over there than here.

There bottom line is that they want to manufacture, sell, and export as much product as possible because it benefits their companies and the country.
 
#155 ·
I used Nils Clutch Command for bleeding the rear brake. The front one I left untouched as I didn't shorten the hose. No difference in feeling. I also know that Beekay on Instagram has used Magura Royal Blood with good results. I chose Nils as it's clear oil so I could see if the color will change over time etc. The viscosity of Nils is 7.9cSt @40C which should be somewhere between Shimano and Magura mineral oil. It works better than Shimano below freezing point which seems to get pretty thick after -10C.
 
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TiJoe said:
I want to try to change your guys perspective on Chinese companies and how they are tied together. Any bike part manufacturing company in China that has an online presence or sells on Alibaba/Aliexpress, could be an independent company, but more likely is part of a larger holding company that is then part of an even larger holding company that rolls up to being controlled by the Chinese government. If you try to dig into finding more about Lewis Brakes, all you can really find is that they have the same address listed as "Loonge Fishing Reels". Loongze Fishing|Loongze Fishing Reels|Loongze Reels|Loongze reel|CNC Fishing Reels - This site even uses the same online layout and colors as Lewis Brakes.

When a new company like Lewis Brakes is formed, we may never know how the design and product came into the market. It could be a larger holding company that backwards engineered the TrickStuff brake, or someone inside Lewis brakes. Most Chinese holding companies work together and even share IP to help each other out, versus our cut-throat system in the USA. Many of the smaller bike part companies use their parent holding company's manufacturing centers to have their product fabricated. It really is a different system over there than here.

There bottom line is that they want to manufacture, sell, and export as much product as possible because it benefits their companies and the country.
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Reminds me of Shimano.
 
#158 ·
Bikedog22 said:
The Danger boy lever blades are a huge improvement. They nearly doubled braking power on a set of Magura Louise Free Rides I still have on one bike.
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Ah to be honest I couldn't tell a difference. The ones pictured came off my champagne coloured Mags, so I rode the black ones briefly with the original levers, then put the Dangerboys on when I was doing that retro build. What they were great for is it got rid of the lever slop that the originals get, it's slightly shorter which I prefer (love the tiny Shimano levers) and generally feel much sturdier but for outright power I'd probably have to do an actual test.
 
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Nat said:
Are these made in the same factory? They look really similar to me:

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Many companies have killed their product by sending the whole product drawings to factories in China for quotes or manufacture.

Back when I was doing material handling I'd never do that even locally. Sheetmetal drawings would go to one company, fabrication drawings to a totally different company. No-one ever gets enough drawings to build anything but isolated parts.

But with brakes if you send MC and Caliper drawings to one place they've pretty much got everything.
 
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