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#41 ·
unrooted said:
So the trip had nothing to do with your K-Pop obsession?
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My K-Pop obsession didn't take root 'til we got there.
We went to a baseball game -- it was AMAZING. Absolutely awesome.
Everyone was so respectful. No booing.
The at bat team's fans lead the cheers and yes, there were K-Pop dancers atop the dugouts, leading those cheers.
They were awesome!
When teams changed mid-inning, the other team's fans would lead the cheers. The opposing team's fans would actually occasionally clap for them!
Beer in the stadium cost the same as it does at mini-marts. In fact, you can bring your own beer into the stadium -- nobody cares.
Ticket costs were reasonable and the game was well attended.
At game's end, everybody picked up their garbage and threw it in the trash bins -- no need to have the stadium cleaned.
Pretty amazing culture, really.
=sParty
 
#42 ·
plummet said:
Sad, Imagine what you are missing out on.

I'm not suggesting international trips all the time. In truth, this my section international mtb trip.

International trips just take that holiday to the next level.
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What's sad to me is someone acting all enlightened as if crossing an imaginary border to go biking has anything to do with it. People are either aware of what's out there or they aren't. And yes, been there, done that. Just go enjoy your trip and don't worry that everyone's not exactly like you.
 
#43 ·
yzedf said:
The pro-USA propaganda here is never ending and only getting worse. So many people that never go more than a couple hours away from home in a place this big is mind boggling, much less to actually get out of the country. I’m so embarrassed by so many of us I’m glad we don’t travel that much…
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That was MEAN! :mad:
 
#45 ·
So, this is an interesting topic.

I’ve had it before at work, and a few other places. And I want to mention something.

There is no need to lament another’s lack of travel, and/or assume lack of travel makes them uncouth/backwards/uneducated. But I’ve seen it happen a lot where this sort of assumption is made or implied.

Turns out the desire for travel is very individual. Some people have it, others don’t.

Even my siblings and I have very different preferences even though we were raised in the same home.

I’ve got a sibling who spends their life traveling (CEO of a Global humanitarian nonprofit), and they’ve been to something like 85-90 countries. Yet they complain about how they havent been to as many countries as some people in friend group have been to (some are well over 100). Then there is me who is perfectly content to stick around the house (the act of traveling is stressful to me). I’ve got another sibling on a year long trip with their whole family traveling the world, and another who hasn’t left their state in a couple of years

I’ve met tons of americans who travel extensively… but haven’t been to any of America between Lake Tahoe and New York City (literally had someone tell me that New York and San Francisco were the only two places worth visiting in the whole country).

There are also people who try to travel less because they don’t want to waste resources (carbon footprint of an airline flight is yuuuge).

And the question of “who is right”, my sister who has been all over the world, or myself? Both, yes, no? We are both content with how we live our life, so I’d say both of us are right, even though neither of us can fathom how the other could possibly be happy with it.

Fwiw, I’ve lived all over the US, and have only lived in one state for longer than 6 years. Ive lived in Michigan, Ohio (twice), North Caroline, Colorado, Arizona, California, and now Washington. I’ve been to every state except 4 (Hawaii and the New England states). And I still don’t feel I’ve “explored” it all that well.
 
#47 · (Edited)
I've never been much of a traveler, but the US being what it is, you don't really have to. All you have to do is look outside your social bubble and you'll finds all sorts of foreigners.

I've had friends from all over the world. Europeans, Brits, Canadians, South Americans, Mexicans, Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Afghanis, Indians, you name it.*

I think the Japanese were my favorite. Very curious and happy, but also kind and respectful. Koreans I've found more rigid and hierarchical. But I don't want my narrow view of a few people to stereotype them all.

I also quite enjoy Indians, but I have no desire to go to India. Love their food, their culture, and their perspective on life.

Just because you stay put, doesn't make you an insular ignoramus. Being closed off to these immigrants and visitors is what makes you a twit.

*Forgot Turks, Israelis, Lebanese, Africans, Nepalese...
 
#49 ·
ocnLogan said:
So, this is an interesting topic.

I’ve had it before at work, and a few other places. And I want to mention something.

There is no need to lament another’s lack of travel, and/or assume lack of travel makes them uncouth/backwards/uneducated. But I’ve seen it happen a lot where this sort of assumption is made or implied.

Turns out the desire for travel is very individual. Some people have it, others don’t.

Even my siblings and I have very different preferences even though we were raised in the same home.

I’ve got a sibling who spends their life traveling (CEO of a Global humanitarian nonprofit), and they’ve been to something like 85-90 countries. Yet they complain about how they havent been to as many countries as some people in friend group have been to (some are well over 100). Then there is me who is perfectly content to stick around the house (the act of traveling is stressful to me). I’ve got another sibling on a year long trip with their whole family traveling the world, and another who hasn’t left their state in a couple of years

I’ve met tons of americans who travel extensively… but haven’t been to any of America between Lake Tahoe and New York City (literally had someone tell me that New York and San Francisco were the only two places worth visiting in the whole country).

There are also people who try to travel less because they don’t want to waste resources (carbon footprint of an airline flight is yuuuge).

And the question of “who is right”, my sister who has been all over the world, or myself? Both, yes, no? We are both content with how we live our life, so I’d say both of us are right, even though neither of us can fathom how the other could possibly be happy with it.

Fwiw, I’ve lived all over the US, and have only lived in one state for longer than 6 years. Ive lived in Michigan, Ohio (twice), North Caroline, Colorado, Arizona, California, and now Washington. I’ve been to every state except 4 (Hawaii and the New England states). And I still don’t feel I’ve “explored” it all that well.
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Thank you for this, ocnLogan.

I've been to a few other countries. Every time I go, I find myself waiting to go back home.
Cyn & I have the opportunity to go to Portugal & Spain for three weeks next September with 14 of our closest friends.
Ugh. Sounds like torture to me. Three weeks? 14 others? Really? No way.
=sParty
 
#50 ·
Sparticus said:
Thank you for this, ocnLogan.

I've been to a few other countries. Every time I go, I find myself waiting to go back home.
Cyn & I have the opportunity to go to Portugal & Spain for three weeks next September with 14 of our closest friends.
Ugh. Sounds like torture to me. Three weeks? 14 others? Really? No way.
=sParty
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To be clear, I’m also not saying the US is the best country or something.

I just like being home.
 
Discussion starter · #51 ·
noapathy said:
What's sad to me is someone acting all enlightened as if crossing an imaginary border to go biking has anything to do with it. People are either aware of what's out there or they aren't. And yes, been there, done that. Just go enjoy your trip and don't worry that everyone's not exactly like you.
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Username checks out.
 
#52 ·
Sparticus said:
Thank you for this, ocnLogan.

I've been to a few other countries. Every time I go, I find myself waiting to go back home.
Cyn & I have the opportunity to go to Portugal & Spain for three weeks next September with 14 of our closest friends.
Ugh. Sounds like torture to me. Three weeks? 14 others? Really? No way.
=sParty
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You know there is amazing riding in both countries yea?

I would be all over that. When you get your fill of the group tourist thing, take off and go ride. The trails an hour or so outside of Madrid look insane… as do places like Lousa Portugal etc. Sick of the group? Fly a couple hours to Madeira and carve single track straight to the beach.
 
Discussion starter · #53 ·
Sparticus said:
Thank you for this, ocnLogan.

I've been to a few other countries. Every time I go, I find myself waiting to go back home.
Cyn & I have the opportunity to go to Portugal & Spain for three weeks next September with 14 of our closest friends.
Ugh. Sounds like torture to me. Three weeks? 14 others? Really? No way.
=sParty
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There's some truely sensational riding in Europe......

Ps I get the desire to come back home. I'm the same when i'm away for any extended period of time.
 
#58 ·
Aside from regular Moab trips, I've never traveled specifically for MTB. Most of my biking happens from my driveway.

I've visited all 50 US states and 27 countries so far, but not specifically for biking, hiking, kayaking, climbing, etc. Those are just activities to enjoy while there, along with exploring cities and country sides. I always look forward to getting back home after a trip.
 
#59 ·
sgltrak said:
Aside from regular Moab trips, I've never traveled specifically for MTB. Most of my biking happens from my driveway.

I've visited all 50 US states and 27 countries so far, but not specifically for biking, hiking, kayaking, climbing, etc. Those are just activities to enjoy while there, along with exploring cities and country sides. I always look forward to getting back home after a trip.
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I especially like visiting ancient historical sites in other countries. Besides Native American sites, we really don't have any. My wife's house in Ireland is over 400 years old. The oldest thing around here is a Spanish Rancheria down the road. It's about 300ish years old. And they're developing the property for tract homes. Sigh...
 
#60 ·
Bikedog22 said:
I especially like visiting ancient historical sites in other countries. Besides Native American sites, we really don't have any. My wife's house in Ireland is over 400 years old. The oldest thing around here is a Spanish Rancheria down the road. It's about 300ish years old. And they're developing the property for tract homes. Sigh...
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Same for me...hiking the Inca Trail, biking around Angkor Wat, walking the Great Wall of China, heck even riding my bike down to the local gasthaus in Germany that was built in 1492. I love the sense of history and have to laugh at the "old" stuff here in Colorado...
 
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