Hi everyone!!!
Since the first ''big news'' broke out today, I guess it is time to start a new thread.
Since the first ''big news'' broke out today, I guess it is time to start a new thread.
2023 World Cup XCC-XCO
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Her messy CX experiment last season, she looked actually out of shape by her standards. Heavier than I’d seen her before. This is all relative to bike racer physiques of course. Not regular humans LOL. I just don’t see her losing. Silver at worst which would be a fail to her I’d guess.
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Yup. Got to watch the GCN races in order to avoid spoilers!
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That's the obvious comparison, but I don't think it's the same thing.
Fluck left room for two riders, Schurter didn't force him to brake, or crash to avoid contact.
Schwarsbauer was on the line and there was no way Pidcock was going to make that turn without taking him out.
Fluck left room for two riders, Schurter didn't force him to brake, or crash to avoid contact.
Schwarsbauer was on the line and there was no way Pidcock was going to make that turn without taking him out.
Up to 3rd place 20s after the start!
here we have Gaze, Koretzky, with Piddock clearly ahead of Schwartzbauer at the stake which I consider to be the apex of the corner.
Here after Pidcock runs a wider line as he would due to breaking late. Luca knows he is there and is on the outside with Pidcock a wheel ahead.
Applying the ideology of the guy ahead at the apex owns the corner, I can't in good faith lay the blame at Picdocks feet despite being a big Schwartbauer fan
If it were any other scenario than world champs last corner i would say it was a stupid move also, but this is not a place to make friends, it's most important race of the year and you get paid to get a podium. Heck, regular folks would too that on local race for six pack of beers
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The 'block pass' in any form of motorcycle racing......
I believe that is what it is called ?
Fine line between the block pass and dive bombing but since Pidcock did give schwartzbauer the option of a wider line I call it fair in love and war.
I’ve been in both scenarios but the outside is the one where you have to be smarter. Release the brakes take the wider line and keep momentum then hit the had a few pedal strokes earlier. That’s the benefit of hindsight
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And not just him; Pidcock & Sagan....
Something smells, and it's got the UCI all over it....Everybody knows Championship rules/regs regarding gridding - latest UCI rankings. World Cups are different and allow for Top10 ranked riders in other disciplines....
There's a reason they have the numbers 101, 104 & 55
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U23 predictions
Men:
Dario Lilo, Riley Amos and Boichis
Women:
Pedersen and the field...
Men:
Dario Lilo, Riley Amos and Boichis
Women:
Pedersen and the field...
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Carter Woods messed his start and is dead last...looked like snapped chain or something in his drivetrain...
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and he finished 11th!!! That was impressive...
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UCI ''adjusted'' the rules using the same format of the XCO World Cups...in WC XCO events, Top 10 world ranking from other disciplines are give 4th or 5th row. In tomorrow's race, the expanded to Top 20 out of the blue to ''acomodate'' Pidcock, but Sagan is #311!!! A few people over there are fuming because some riders got bumped rows not places...and we all know how important starting position is.
Yeah there was a protest by the many of the national team coaches today. But the ruling came from the UCI president and he can adjust rules at will apparently.
Pidcock and MVDP makes sense. They are potential winners and deserve a shot. Sagan, he will be lucky to finish in the lead lap and will be a moving ride block for the riders now starting behind him
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The UCI making inconsistent and arbitrary judgments?
Colombia explodes against the UCI! 57 positive for tramadol and 2 sanctioned, among them Nairo Quintana
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Everybody here knows I like Tom. But I heard the news of the crash here first before seeing the race and fully expected to see something far more egregious and figured he had done something quite naughty. But what is on that video is not what I expected to see. It's a quite aggressive, clean, last lap pass for the Bronze. It's one of the reasons I do admire Pidcock. He has the skill to pull off a move like that and remain upright. Most anyone else not named Nino probably would have crashed himself out.
I too like Luca, but I would go so far as to say that he crashed himself out. I watched this video at least 15 times at .25x playback speed. Tom is well past him with a head of steam, Luca then turns IN, leans on the back of Pidcock's bike. Tom is now in a 2 wheel drift which may or may not have been caused by contact, but Luca's bad decision/freeze-up/poor bike handling skills... call it what you want, caused his crash. Once he saw Tom (which is much further back than where he crashed... he had plenty of time) the correct response here is to pick up the bike and readjust your line and hope for payback in the sprint.
Whether or not Pidcock could "technically" not be in the wrong (I have no idea what historical precedent really tells us here), he entered that turn with every intention of getting Luca out of the way (by force). On a course where the commentators kept mentioning how long the finishing corral was to allow for ample passes and sprints, that seems really dick. He could have chosen to execute the pass after the turn and still finished third.
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