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#201 · (Edited)
Overkill said:
Yep, I have run a dropper on my CS-197, but I don't consistently have one on…
I don't feel it is necessary for 99% of the fatbiking I do….
Putting around on snow averaging 12 km/h is just fine with a rigid post and less hassle overall…
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Looks like different riding styles and a modern geo fat bike doesn’t really offer any advantages to just putting around on snow.

From a good article on reasons why you don’t need a dropper…

“Curiously, I have come across a number of mountain bikers who have bought a bike with a dropper seatpost, but they don’t actually use it. There are two main reasons for this.The first, they’re not actually certain how it works and when it’s best to use it.

The second is they’re not experienced enough; and while riding they’re so focussed on staying upright, braking and shifting that an extra thing like managing their saddle height isn’t possible.”

“It’s a pity, because using a dropper seatpost enhances your riding. Actually, it does more than enhance, it noticeably changes the way you ride. A dropper seatpost, used properly, gives you more confidence, more manoeuvrability, more control, more traction and, obviously, more speed.”

“Everyone can ride a mountain bike just fine with a normal seatpost. And if fine is all you want, then you don’t need a dropper seatpost. Your riding is a bit limited, but it’s fine. But if you want more than fine. If you want more confidence, if you want more maneuverability, if you want more control, if you want more traction and if you want more speed, well you don’t need a dropper, you want a dropper.”


So if just putting around in the snow is just fine for you then not using a dropper will work just fine.

I and many others want more than just fine and love the way a dropper changes the way you ride.

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YOU DON’T NEED A DROPPER SEATPOST. HERE’S WHY…

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#202 ·
tahoebeau said:
Looks like different riding styles and a modern geo fat bike doesn’t really offer any advantages to just putting around on snow.

From a good article on reasons why you don’t need a dropper…

“Curiously, I have come across a number of mountain bikers who have bought a bike with a dropper seatpost, but they don’t actually use it. There are two main reasons for this.
The first, they’re not actually certain how it works and when it’s best to use it.

The second is they’re not experienced enough; and while riding they’re so focussed on staying upright, braking and shifting that an extra thing like managing their saddle height isn’t possible.”

“It’s a pity, because using a dropper seatpost enhances your riding. Actually, it does more than enhance, it noticeably changes the way you ride. A dropper seatpost, used properly, gives you more confidence, more manoeuvrability, more control, more traction and, obviously, more speed.”

“Everyone can ride a mountain bike just fine with a normal seatpost. And if fine is all you want, then you don’t need a dropper seatpost. Your riding is a bit limited, but it’s fine. But if you want more than fine. If you want more confidence, if you want more maneuverability, if you want more control, if you want more traction and if you want more speed, well you don’t need a dropper, you want a dropper.”

www.treadmtb.co.za

YOU DON’T NEED A DROPPER SEATPOST. HERE’S WHY…

First it was tubeless tyres. Then disc brakes. Then 29-inch wheels. Then 2x drivetrains. Then...
www.treadmtb.co.za www.treadmtb.co.za


So if just putting around in the snow is just fine for you then not using a dropper will work just fine.

I and many others want more than just fine and love the way a dropper changes the way you ride.
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Lol. Believe me, I understand the benefits of a dropper! I can barely even ride my mtb anymore without a dropper on my local trails - fatbikes riding exclusively on snow is an entirely different situation, at least on my trails. Rolling terrain for me does not require a dropper on snow.

Hell, even Nino doesn't use a dropper if the conditions don't demand it - and we're talking WC circuits.

Like I said, I'm way too reliant on my dropper for real mtn biking, but I don't consider riding on 3 plus feet of snow real mtn biking. To each his own! I guess I should be envious of your fatbike trails - they must be very different than mine.
 
#203 · (Edited)
Overkill said:
Lol. Believe me, I understand the benefits of a dropper! I can barely even ride my mtb anymore without a dropper on my local trails - fatbikes riding exclusively on snow is an entirely different situation, at least on my trails.
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Make some more exciting trails then?
My trails change pretty much every time it snows and I go out to groom them again. How you choose to ride what you make and what you do on the ride is your choice, but for a lot of people there is a lot more to riding on the snow than just putting around on rolling terrain.

Some stock photos of droppers in use on snow for reference
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#204 ·
I was an early adopter of droppers on fatbikes. Now I'm seeing them come from the factory with em, the riders that I normally ride with or encounter now have them too. Way too many advantages and it becomes even more critical on a fatbike that I'd rather have a dropper than a suspension fork. You just get way more bang for your buck with control and maneuverability (compared to suspension fork). Even in endurance stuff, many people have no idea how getting on and off a bike in soft snow conditions over hundreds of miles just tears your body up. The dropper is amazing there too.
 
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#205 ·
Jayem said:
I was an early adopter of droppers on fatbikes. Now I'm seeing them come from the factory with em, the riders that I normally ride with or encounter now have them too. Way too many advantages and it becomes even more critical on a fatbike that I'd rather have a dropper than a suspension fork. You just get way more bang for your buck with control and maneuverability (compared to suspension fork). Even in endurance stuff, many people have no idea how getting on and off a bike in soft snow conditions over hundreds of miles just tears your body up. The dropper is amazing there too.
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100% with you on that. So many advantages to using a dropper in the snow. Dropper post completely changed the way I ride and it simply opens up so much more fun. The dropper has become a critical component for me and I would choose dropper over suspension any day.
 
#206 ·
Not to mention, when riding trails in the snow and you need to stop or fall off, it sucks getting back on even with a dropper. the bike is on the trail and you are trying to mount up standing in knee deep powder.

I could almost live without the dropper most of the summer but it is almost a necessity in the winter and I sure would like to run A 170mm or better.
 
#207 ·
Overkill said:
Do people choose their bike size based on seat tube length?
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There are several different measurements I look at when sizing a bike and seat tube length is one of them along with things like reach, sta, stack etc. I usually start with things like reach/stack just to make sure the bike will fit then move to things like seat tube length to see what components I can run.

Surprising how much a half inch difference will make in component selection. For example, here is my fat bike with a 520mm seat tube and 200mm dropper. I would need to get a different, shorter dropper for the 533 seat tube length on the CS197.

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#210 ·
Pipeliner said:
Not to mention, when riding trails in the snow and you need to stop or fall off, it sucks getting back on even with a dropper. the bike is on the trail and you are trying to mount up standing in knee deep powder.

I could almost live without the dropper most of the summer but it is almost a necessity in the winter and I sure would like to run A 170mm or better.
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I do not know how I have survived riding in snowshoe packed deep snow with no dropper.
 
#212 ·
Pipeliner said:
Not to mention, when riding trails in the snow and you need to stop or fall off, it sucks getting back on even with a dropper. the bike is on the trail and you are trying to mount up standing in knee deep powder.

I could almost live without the dropper most of the summer but it is almost a necessity in the winter and I sure would like to run A 170mm or better.
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Riding skinnies or wut?

30 years of trail maintenance and grooming 200 miles of trail. being on board with the local sled club has benefits! One of these days, I'll ride from Four Mile Park to Electric Mountain Lodge on the same trails I maintain with the sled club. No dropper At this point and trails are at minimum 36" wide. Dropper at that point isn't a do or die. It would be on those cheesy 4" trails tho'!!
 
#218 ·
Pipeliner said:
That bowser would benefit from a slacker head angle.
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Ebby's slack as it gets. Where she gets alla dat N R G, I dunno but wanna try what she's on!! The best part is that she follows command when other dogs are present. A rarity with dawgz! Sweet disposition and everyone is there to play with her!
 
#220 ·
BansheeRune said:
My take is that fella is a great ride partner.

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Ebony Bytch!!

This silly dog hauls ass and is always within 25 meters, no matter how fast I make a bike go. She has two speeds, Park and Light em up!!
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Looks just like my neighbor’s dog.
Good on the trails, terrible at disc golf. I have quite a few discs with speed holes in them now.

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