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#23 ·
A local fluids company (Boss Lubricants) makes a line of slideway oils. High tackifier content - it strings into spiderwebs that float away on air currents.

I was having trouble with friction in my MRP Ribbon and tried various viscosities from Boss; 68 significantly reduced the breakaway force without adding excessive drag.

Bulk pricing was far better than low-volume, so I now have 5 L! Happy to portion it out to anyone interested.
 
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R-M-R said:
A local fluids company (Boss Lubricants) makes a line of slideway oils. High tackifier content - it strings into spiderwebs that float away on air currents.

I was having trouble with friction in my MRP Ribbon and tried various viscosities from Boss; 68 significantly reduced the breakaway force without adding excessive drag.

Bulk pricing was far better than low-volume, so I now have 5 L! Happy to portion it out to anyone interested.
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I'd be interested in trying it out. Oils with high tackifier content work well in firearms because they stay put where they need to be.
 
#28 · (Edited)
Cleared2land said:
You're citing a thread from 14 years ago.
You think this all still relevant?
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You mean a comment from a year and a half ago? If you think that’s old, then we have a different understanding of what old means. Chances are that shop is still open and maybe they can supply him some.
The relevance is dictated by whether or not the OP truly wants Supergliss 68K, which it seems he does but it’s difficult to source.
My comment was an attempt to help him get what he originally wanted. Do your ever comment something positive and useful to others?
Cleared2land said:
Whats wrong with easily obtainable Fox Fork oil, or is the objective is to try random fluids?
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Cleared2land said:
And why is your suggestion of 0w30 better than the fox recommendation?
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#31 ·
Here in Norway the supergliss 68 is not easy to get a hold on, and may be expencive to buy outside the country due to taxes/shipping.
Since supergliss 68 is a way oil, I was looking for way 68 oil wich is aviable locally. But then I was lucky to find some way oil at the machine-shop at work, so i "borrowed" a pint.

This oil is called "Way lubricant x 68"
https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/PDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=354701&docFormat=PDF

As R-M-R also mentioned there are others making eqvivalent oil to the supergliss:

R-M-R said:
A local fluids company (Boss Lubricants) makes a line of slideway oils. High tackifier content - it strings into spiderwebs that float away on air currents.

I was having trouble with friction in my MRP Ribbon and tried various viscosities from Boss; 68 significantly reduced the breakaway force without adding excessive drag.

Bulk pricing was far better than low-volume, so I now have 5 L! Happy to portion it out to anyone interested.
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#32 ·
Elraj79 said:
Here in Norway the supergliss 68 is not easy to get a hold on, and may be expencive to buy outside the country due to taxes/shipping.
Since supergliss 68 is a way oil, I was looking for way 68 oil wich is aviable locally. But then I was lucky to find some way oil at the machine-shop at work, so i "borrowed" a pint.

This oil is called "Way lubricant x 68"
https://cglapps.chevron.com/msdspds/PDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=354701&docFormat=PDF

As R-M-R also mentioned there are others making eqvivalent oil to the supergliss:
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So far the best alternative i found in the EU for Supergliss 68 is Öhlins Renep CGLP 68 Fork Lower leg oil 1L.

Also in this thread you can find some other options -
Thinner oil instead of Fox 20wt gold
 
#35 · (Edited)
CS645 said:
I'm gonna give this Slideway Oil 68 a shot:


5L for 40,- euro's. See how it feels/works. I can service a lot of forks with that and still hand plenty to friends.
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I just wanted to come back on this. I've only installed the above oil on my wives bike before the winter. In the winter she wasn't to happy with the small bump performance with this oil. Now that it is heating up, she seams to be happier with it. The oil has a viscosity index of 117, so slightly better in that regard than supergliss 68 (VI 101). They also have a higher end slideway oil 68K with a viscosity index of 144. That's the highest I've seen thusfar (obviously still far from motor oils), but no experience with it or knowledge how it performs in other regards:

They sell those also in 5L cans, but even in Europe it seems hard to find in that quantity.

Is it correct to say that a viscosity of around 200 is ideal for fork performance? Too bad these oils are not standard viscosity rated at lower than 40 degrees. Would make it much more useful for bike use.
 
#36 ·
CS645 said:
I just wanted to come back on this. I've only installed the above oil on my wives bike before the winter. In the winter she wasn't to happy with the small bump performance with this oil. Now that it is heating up, she seams to be happier with it. The oil has a viscosity index of 117, so slightly better in that regard than supergliss 68 (VI 101). They also have a higher end slideway oil 68K with a viscosity index of 144. That's the highest I've seen thusfar (obviously still far from motor oils), but no experience with it or knowledge how it performs in other regards:

They sell those also in 5L cans, but even in Europe it seems hard to find in that quantity.

Is it correct to say that a viscosity of around 200 is ideal for fork performance? Too bad these oils are not standard viscosity rated at lower than 40 degrees. Would make it much more useful for bike use.
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Do you live in the Netherlands? If so let me know, I have a contact where I sourced Supergliss 32K which basically lets you mix and make whatever viscosity from 32K to 100K.
 
#38 ·
jsma09 said:
Do you live in the Netherlands? If so let me know, I have a contact where I sourced Supergliss 32K which basically lets you mix and make whatever viscosity from 32K to 100K.
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Yes I do and thanks for the offer. I still have some stock of supergliss in different weights and also Motorex Synt 4T so I'm good for now, but good to know. (y)

I looked a bit further into it. The Eurol 68-s lube is listed on their page of slideway oils but the product page itself does not seem to identify it as such. So a bit unclear.

I also wanted to come back to the cheaper Eurol 68 slideway oil I used on my wives bike. So as said the viscosity index is higher (better) than Supergliss 68 (and most other slideway oils), but it's pourpoint is -9 degrees celsius where Supergliss 68 is -21 and Fuchs Renep 68 used by Ohlins is -24. That could explain why the Eurol would performs so poorly in the cold even though it viscosity index is higher.

Motorex Synt 4T 5W/40 is -45 degrees for instance. The more expensive Eurol lube 68-s has a pour point of -39. Hard to to tell how their lubrication properties compare though.

Speaking generally, I find it fascinating that the bike industry as a whole makes so much effort to try to convince us they have the best damper and wants us to spend a lot of bucks on suspensions parts, while they are collectively unable to get oil companies to provide relevant data for the normal temperature range when biking and sometimes advertise the use of very poor oils for certain conditions.
 
#40 ·
This are the specs of the Maxima Plush Dynamic lube BTW (light and heavy):
maximausa.com

PLUSH DYNAMIC LUBE

Maxima Plush Dynamic is an advanced specialty fluid formulated for high performance suspension systems. Formulated and tested with OEM engineers and designed for use in lower fork legs and multiple other non-damper components. Surface active technology reduces static and dynamic friction and...
maximausa.com maximausa.com

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Going by the numbers cSt of 49@ 40 degrees, viscosity index of 161 and pour point of -38 degrees celsius doesn't look to bad. Seems to point to an oil with good consistency through the year. Still lubrications performance compared to Supergliss 68 is unclear as of yet.
 

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