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Painted to (mostly, apparently) match green Onyx hubs with a Bombtrack BPS fork. Flow Mk 4s wrapped in Teravail Coronado 29s. DMR Defy50 and Bashguard custom ano to (darn near perfectly) match green Wolftooth. Shimano 501 brakes. XT 11 speed shifter moving a Deore derailleur on the Deore 11spd 11-51T cassette. RF 32/Leonardi 36 on a Spawn 160 crank.

Size small geo is not far off my medium Timberjack. At 5'10", it works great with a 50mm stem and a 170 dropper.

I got this because i don't need LLS. The Gen 1 Timberjack I love. Gen 2 jumped the shark on geo. And nearly doubled in frame only price.

Enter the Primal. Turns out I love it. Gonna be a coupla months until a proper trail ride.

The Green Goblin:

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Don’t get me wrong, I’m not making fun of it. If you’re loving it, that’s all that matters. Honestly, it’s the reason I like my Honzo, it feels like a bike BMX.

How about about this:

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SE Bikes Monster Quad 29"+

The Monster Quad is the ultimate definition of BMX Innovations. Built around huge 29” x 2.8” Vee Speedster tires, this bike is the world’s first 29+ BMX bike. The unique Monster Quad frame design features an oversized downtube, integrated headset, super stiff BB yoke, and a legendary looptail...
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#10 ·
I’m not gangsta yo
This? Change the bars, green metallic Krylon 😎

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I guess I am just missing the point. As you said, it’s an awesome bike, that I agree with that. What confuses me is why? New to mountain bikes, yes(ish). New to bikes, no. Why the rigid fork? Better climbing? My old Kona had 100mm fork and was damn near crucified. You have a rigid fork and it’s a celebration. So in my defence, I stand by my logic that this to me is a BMX with a multi speed drivetrain and a dropper.
 
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Geometry matters far more than sus or even quality of sus. My other bike is a Gen 1 Salsa Timberjack. I rode the stock RS Recon for a season. And then went with a 2019 Pike Ultimate. I wanted to go top end and see if fancy sus cured those issues I had with sus. It did not. I don't need sus for jumps or big hits, as even with it, I avoid them. I don't need sus for Rocky trails as even with it I avoid them. I am blessed with about 100 miles of single-track about a mile away. And a really awesome bike path thatgets alot of my time, as well. Some of the trails I ride are labeled black. Even if they would be blue in most areas, sections get pretty steep. I like a slack head angle, but don't need crazy slack. I like a tall stack and short stays. My one issue with the Primal is the chainstays. Even though 432mm is considered by many to already be short, the Timberjack has 420mm stays. We'll see how the bike behaves in the twisties come late spring.

Those big BMX bikes you posted have 2005 26" wheel Geometry. I had a couple 29ers way back with similar numbers. New* geo all the way. I'll never go back.



*my preferred geo is mid-school more than new school.
 
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That’s a fair statement in suspension. My buddy I ride with certainly tried to convince me of a FS when I was kicking the idea of a new bike around. I’m sure they’re great and cooshie on the hemorrhoid hole, but I think I prefer the hardtail. Like you, it seems right (if that makes sense). As for my suspension fork, it’s a better fork than I had but I honestly don’t notice a difference (and maybe I’m not sure what I’m looking for either). But if you ride solid with a rigid fork and geometry that works, straight. As stated above “It’s an awesome bike”.

Those SE bikes are whatever. I tried one a year ago and wasn’t that impressed. My BMX just collect dust now, I ride them around the lot of my storage unit a few times a year. But this one is my favorite:

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ilmfat said:
The faster you go, the more suspension, and better suspension, come into play. I don't go that fast. And the trails I ride, only a few sections have many rocks/drops/roots. It's closer to gravel riding except the "road" is only a foot wide.
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I’m not going that fast either but not super slow. For me, I dig on the suspension fork. But that also goes with everything for my Honzo. I think it’s safe to say we both have cool bikes that work for our personal needs 😉
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