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#161 ·
kurtr said:
My bike was in the shop... but I measured more accurately. The seat post max insertion on the S4 is 170mm. I already am 120mm out of my frame. The OneUp 210 MM has an insertion length of 297mm. Confirmed: I wouldn't be able to lower my low seat height at all (yes, technically 7mm) . I would only gain 40mm of seat height when fully extended compared to my stock 170mm seat post I have now. Is what it is for this guy...
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@kurtr, just now found this thread. I also have an S4 Kenevo SL. Am i understanding this to mean that the oneup 210mm will sit 120mm out of the frame? I'm looking to get a 210mm I'm okay limiting it to 200mm but less than that won't be worth it
 
#164 ·
amirh1 said:
@kurtr, just now found this thread. I also have an S4 Kenevo SL. Am i understanding this to mean that the oneup 210mm will sit 120mm out of the frame? I'm looking to get a 210mm I'm okay limiting it to 200mm but less than that won't be worth it
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I found it was worth it to install the 210 OneUp in my S4 for the 7mm more drop, but 190mm extension fits my leg length. I still could use more drop, but that 7mm already made a noticeable difference.
 
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#165 ·
I read in the EMTB forums that the the frame will allow a 65mm stroke shock, so I took the 2.5mm reducer out of my Float X, and it works! I now have 179mm of travel. It has been raining, so I have not ridden it yet; I expect I would not notice a difference except for the bigger hits.

Has anyone run a 180mm fork on this bike? Would help match the increased rear travel.
 
#166 ·
AEyogi said:
I read in the EMTB forums that the the frame will allow a 65mm stroke shock, so I took the 2.5mm reducer out of my Float X, and it works! I now have 179mm of travel. It has been raining, so I have not ridden it yet; I expect I would not notice a difference except for the bigger hits.

Has anyone run a 180mm fork on this bike? Would help match the increased rear travel.
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I haven't (and I'm assuming it works) but Just FYI you could instead change the geo since it's so adjustable on KSL. If you added 9mm in the rear, you could move your HA to be slacker by 1 degree to compensate (if it's not already in the slack position). I don't think it fully compensates - I'm guess you steepened your HA by less than half a degree - but it would also get you closer to the feeling you're looking for. My 2c
 
#167 ·
amirh1 said:
I haven't (and I'm assuming it works) but Just FYI you could instead change the geo since it's so adjustable on KSL. If you added 9mm in the rear, you could move your HA to be slacker by 1 degree to compensate (if it's not already in the slack position). I don't think it fully compensates - I'm guess you steepened your HA by less than half a degree - but it would also get you closer to the feeling you're looking for. My 2c
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The geometry only changes at full compression when the back end will potentially sit a little lower very briefly. The normal ride height has remained the same so no change is really needed.
 
#168 ·
springs said:
The geometry only changes at full compression when the back end will potentially sit a little lower very briefly. The normal ride height has remained the same so no change is really needed.
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Agree, no change is "needed" and the geo is unchanged, just feel like I might want to have 180 up front to match the rear travel. I really like how the bike rides presently, and would be bummed out to buy a Fox 38 or Zeb and find out it doesn't ride well.
 
#169 ·
AEyogi said:
Agree, no change is "needed" and the geo is unchanged, just feel like I might want to have 180 up front to match the rear travel. I really like how the bike rides presently, and would be bummed out to buy a Fox 38 or Zeb and find out it doesn't ride well.
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I wouldn't change just to match it (and you don't need a new fork just new damper). You also don't want to be too overforked here, as it might also affect the climbing if you like to climb steep tech trails with the e-bike.
 
#170 ·
amirh1 said:
I wouldn't change just to match it (and you don't need a new fork just new damper). You also don't want to be too overforked here, as it might also affect the climbing if you like to climb steep tech trails with the e-bike.
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It currently has a Fox 36, which I don't think can go to 180. Right now I have the geo with the headset in neutral and the rear in low, and if I were to get a 180mm fork I could put the headset in slack, and the rear in high to balance out the extra travel. I am not set on doing this, but just interested, that is why I am wondering if anyone has overforked this bike and can make a recommendation.
 
#171 ·
RBoardman said:
This is just a Praxxis issue. While I like supporting the small local businesses, their current products are not up to the quality that should be spec’d on high end enduro rigs like the kenevo SL.
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Saw the PB carbon praxis crank fail so ordered a set of praxis alloy SL cranks which bent on ride #1 going a bit deep on a landing. I warranteed them and bent the replacements on the first ride. I did this 4 times at which point praxis threw in the towel and said no more. Nobody else makes cranks for the SL motor so I sold the bike. I think I’d gone through 6 sets of cranks total. The rumer I heard is that there is a family connection between specialized and praxis, which explains the fact that such junk got specced on the SL’s. Loved that bike, such a bummer the cranks were proprietary junk.
 
#172 ·
Blownoutrides said:
Saw the PB carbon praxis crank fail so ordered a set of praxis alloy SL cranks which bent on ride #1 going a bit deep on a landing. I warranteed them and bent the replacements on the first ride. I did this 4 times at which point praxis threw in the towel and said no more. Nobody else makes cranks for the SL motor so I sold the bike. I think I’d gone through 6 sets of cranks total. The rumer I heard is that there is a family connection between specialized and praxis, which explains the fact that such junk got specced on the SL’s. Loved that bike, such a bummer the cranks were proprietary junk.
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I weigh 270 and and ride black trails at the bike park and have hit the cranks on rocks and roots endlessly and done a bunch of drops. Mine are perfectly straight after a year with the bike
 
#173 ·
Cygrace724 said:
I weigh 270 and and ride black trails at the bike park and have hit the cranks on rocks and roots endlessly and done a bunch of drops. Mine are perfectly straight after a year with the bike
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I’m 240 and not the gnarliest guy in the world. Here’s a sample from the local loop (ladder drop at 0:25 claimed a couple pairs of the alloy SL cranks):

 
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Blownoutrides said:
Saw the PB carbon praxis crank fail so ordered a set of praxis alloy SL cranks which bent on ride #1 going a bit deep on a landing. I warranteed them and bent the replacements on the first ride. I did this 4 times at which point praxis threw in the towel and said no more. Nobody else makes cranks for the SL motor so I sold the bike. I think I’d gone through 6 sets of cranks total. The rumer I heard is that there is a family connection between specialized and praxis, which explains the fact that such junk got specced on the SL’s. Loved that bike, such a bummer the cranks were proprietary junk.
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this is incredible, Specialized did no do anything to help? it is their crank of chose! Unbelivable.
 
#176 ·
iguanabartola said:
this is incredible, Specialized did no do anything to help? it is their crank of chose! Unbelivable.
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Specialized kicked the warranty can down the road to Praxis. Praxis warrantied a few sets but then stopped honoring the warranty. Lesson here is to not buy a bike with proprietary parts. If it fails you’re up the creek without a paddle.

99% of folks will be fine. The exception is big humans who like leaving the ground. If they designed bikes around us they’d be really heavy and nobody would want them :).
 
#177 ·
Blownoutrides said:
Specialized kicked the warranty can down the road to Praxis. Praxis warrantied a few sets but then stopped honoring the warranty. Lesson here is to not buy a bike with proprietary parts. If it fails you’re up the creek without a paddle.

99% of folks will be fine. The exception is big humans who like leaving the ground. If they designed bikes around us they’d be really heavy and nobody would want them :).
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Sorry to hear. Not the first time they pulled off this sh*t, and won't be the last. They're terrible in terms of owning up to non-standard warranty incidents. If your carbon wheel breaks you're fine, but if there's anything they can kick to the suppliers that's the first thing Big 'S will do. Talking from experience here.
 
#178 ·
Blownoutrides said:
Specialized kicked the warranty can down the road to Praxis. Praxis warrantied a few sets but then stopped honoring the warranty. Lesson here is to not buy a bike with proprietary parts. If it fails you’re up the creek without a paddle.

99% of folks will be fine. The exception is big humans who like leaving the ground. If they designed bikes around us they’d be really heavy and nobody would want them :).
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Boy scout is no joke and it has claimed many bikes, parts, bones, and ligaments. Just got a KSL for the steep natural tech trails where I live but would probably ride my normal trail/enduro rig for boy scout so that anything I break can easily be replaced (besides human parts). Was also curious about other coil options people have tried on the KSL?
 
#179 ·
mslaf said:
Boy scout is no joke and it has claimed many bikes, parts, bones, and ligaments. Just got a KSL for the steep natural tech trails where I live but would probably ride my normal trail/enduro rig for boy scout so that anything I break can easily be replaced (besides human parts). Was also curious about other coil options people have tried on the KSL?
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I have the Ohlins ttx22m.2 and it's fantastic for the KSL. That being said, I think the X2 also really pairs well with the bike (sans the typical issues with the X2 like air escaping).
 
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