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Paper maps are invaluable.
That said, whenever I go backpacking, I don’t keep bringing my paper map out to navigate.
Doing so is inconvenient plus every time I unfold/refold the paper map, its life is diminished by one more use (abuse) cycle.
Instead of continually pulling a paper map out, each morning I use my phone to take a picture of the area of the map I’ll be traversing that day.
While hiking, whenever I want to check my whereabouts or make junction decisions, etc., I whip my phone out and look at the photo.
I can pinch, pan, zoom as necessary.
If the photo proves inadequate, I can always reach for the actual paper map again.
=sParty
I do that too!
 
While hiking, whenever I want to check my whereabouts or make junction decisions, etc., I whip my phone out and look at the photo.
I can pinch, pan, zoom as necessary.
Pro tip...you can do that with Gaia as well, no need to take a photo. But I think you have recently learned how to use Gaia unless I'm mistaken
 
That said, whenever I go backpacking, I don’t keep bringing my paper map out to navigate.
I mean, I don't generally need to pull out the paper map very often, either.

it's typically a start of the day/start of the activity sort of thing. but maybe not even that. I usually pull the paper map out more often to show other people I encounter on the trails who are lost. the trails where I typically hike or ride are marked well enough that once I'm on them, it's pretty uncommon that I need to do much navigation, assuming I did my due diligence before I showed up at the trailhead. and for the times where I do need to do more involved navigation, a photo of a paper map isn't going to cut it. I either need the quick location-display of a GPS or I'm diving headlong into map and compass work. neither of which a basic photo is going to help with.
 
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Here's my Smash's dash:
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I didn't read back through this thread to see who suggested that portrait orientation is better than landscape, but yeah, it is.
At least on the bicycle. Not a big deal either way and for some reason I find that landscape mode doesn't bother me on my dirt bike, but I do prefer portrait mode on the mtn bike.
Maybe that's because I actually look at it while I'm riding the mtn bike. On the moto, I don't look at it unless/until I've stopped to try to figure out where I am.
Anyway, this new nav system -- in one orientation or the other -- is serving me well. Today my phone stayed on for 2.5 hrs straight and used 65% of its battery life.
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Phones will be eclipsing dedicated GPS platforms like Garmin handhelds. Phones are just way way more flexible. Just like in-car nav, as good as that is, it's not as real-time and flexible as nav on a phone. The garmin units are marked for death IMO. Doesn't mean they are useless or you have to go turn them in tomorrow, but as phones get better, and they are quite good, the dedicated platform gets worse and worse comparatively. I've got Gaia on my phone, trailforks on my phone. About the only need I have for dedicated garmin units are my watch for ride tracking, etrex for expedition-battery-longevity and in-reach...but again, some of those devices are marked for death. Sat coms coming for phones, etc.
Yes, a long life batter specialists is the only way I could rationalize a device like the Garmin. The live nature along with other services make the Apple Watch more valuable and useful to me. If your phone is with apps like Abvio's extent battery life.

On the Gaia GPS, I've had it early and now a while into new ownership. I find it worth the annual subscription. I've downloaded ahead of time for some travel including international. There is a layer that has some back country ski trails I like. If your vehicle has Car Play there is some great entertainment value loading the 1930s and other old maps including topo.
 
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