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The Topaz Gen 3 is DVO’s latest iteration of a do-it-all air shock. It’s beefier than previous versions and it's been optimized for performance. The shock comes with its own carrying case, a shock pump, and clip-on volume spacers. I bought this one to go on my Fezzari Wire Peak ebike in a 210x55 size that provides 140mm of rear-wheel travel.

Specifications
  • Damper Features: T3 Compression, Rebound, Bladder Pressure Adjust
  • Spring Features: Adjustable Positive and Negative Volume via Spacers
  • Sizes: Available in a variety of metric and trunnion sizes.
  • Price: $550
  • Available at: DVO

What’s in the box

Inside the shipping box, you’ll find the nice plastic carrying case that has the shock, pump, volume spacers, sticker, and a setup guide included. The shock feels and looks like a high-quality product as it should with this being the top-of-line air shock for DVO. The markings for compression and rebound are clear and easy to understand. The only thing it doesn’t include that you might need is mounting hardware to fit your bike. I ordered the appropriate hardware from DVO and got straight to work getting it installed.

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Setup

Getting the shock installed was easy and then I followed the setup guide to get it adjusted and ready to ride. The first step was to set the air pressure. There is a convenient chart showing a psi range for various rider weights.

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The included pump works great and has a nice gauge that is easy to read and allows you to get the pressure set to exactly the level you want. I then did a sag check to make sure the air pressure was where it needed to be for my weight.

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The Topaz Gen 3 has a bladder that can be adjusted. I followed the chart in the setup guide to set the bladder pressure and then went to step 5 to set the rebound. There’s only 1 rebound knob and I set the number of clicks per the chart according to the air pressure. Easy peasy and it can be adjusted on the fly to rider preference.

For compression adjustment, there’s only a 3-position switch for open, mid, or firm. Wow, does this switch make a huge difference. I’ll talk more about this later in the riding section, but there is a massive difference in all 3 switch positions that had me excited to get out on the trail and see what it felt like.

I didn’t add any volume spacers during the initial setup, but they are there and the final step in the setup guide explains how many to use and where to put them (positive or negative) to dial in the shock for your preference.

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The Ride
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Out on the trail, I wanted to get a feel for the shock and see if I needed to make any adjustments to the rebound. I’m no suspension setup guru, but I can tell when it feels good or feels bad. I went to a trail system that has a mix of single-track, rocky tech, and flowy jump lines.

I found myself using the mid compression setting the most. This is the best position to use for those set-it-and-forget-it types. It’s good for climbing and descending and it’s what I used for the jump lines. It feels plush and supportive and is perfect for trails that meander and have short climbs and descents over and over. I’ll likely leave it in this position for 80% of my rides and only use the two other settings in certain situations.

The Open setting on the switch is buttery smooth. Small and big bump compliance felt great and it just soaked up anything the trail could dish out. This is the setting you’d want to use for long descents and when the trail gets really chunky.

The Firm setting on the switch surprised me the most. On my other shocks that had compression switches, I could barely tell a slight difference between open and firm. I expected the same here, but when I moved the switch to the firm setting and sat on the bike, it barely moved. I would not want to ride down a chunky trail in this setting, but man does it work for climbing. I will certainly be using this setting on long climbs and road passes.

Verdict

Overall, I’m really impressed with the DVO Topaz Gen 3 shock. It’s priced right at $550 and that includes a descent shock pump. It’s simple to set up and is easy to tune and adjust to your liking. It feels great on the trail, but I already expected that. What impressed me the most was the compression settings and the fact that you can actually tell a difference between each one. It’s more useful than most open/firm switches I’ve had on other shocks.

Another little detail is I love the shape and position of the reservoir. It’s more out of the way than others and allows me to fit a bottle on my bike where I wasn’t able to with other reservoir shocks. This thing is a premium piece of kit that I can easily recommend if you are looking for a new shock.
 
Good write up! I have to wonder though, what other shocks were you using before that there wasn't much of a difference to you between Firm and Open. I find that surprising; at least the bikes that I'd ridden, the difference was definitely noticeable.
 
Thanks, that's a really bad review. No idea on how it performs compared to other comparable shocks. No discussion on the damping internals and how they do or do not work or achieve their intended goal, etc. It's like most every other suspension review: this is great, everything is great, we don't dare compare or actually dive into it at all...

As an example, my DVO jade has really really light compression damping...way too light, even compared to a Bomber CR. For that reason, it's pretty much unusable in stock configuration. Dougal has gone into more detail about their design and function...but that's exactly what a review should be.
 
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The other shocks I've used on it were the Fox Float X2 and a Rockshox Deluxe Select+. The compression switches on those don't even come close to the amount of difference felt as compared to the DVO from what I experienced.

The DVO felt plusher in the open setting and handled the terrain on my local trails better than both other shocks. I don't have science to back that up, but can only go on how it felt and the ride quality. The Fox comes in 2nd, but it takes longer and is more complicated to set up and dial in. The DVO is super simple to set up and provided a great experience without spending hours messing with adjustments to get it to feel great.

Just my opinion Jayem, I appreciate the comments and critic.
 
The other shocks I've used on it were the Fox Float X2 and a Rockshox Deluxe Select+. The compression switches on those don't even come close to the amount of difference felt as compared to the DVO from what I experienced.

The DVO felt plusher in the open setting and handled the terrain on my local trails better than both other shocks. I don't have science to back that up, but can only go on how it felt and the ride quality. The Fox comes in 2nd, but it takes longer and is more complicated to set up and dial in. The DVO is super simple to set up and provided a great experience without spending hours messing with adjustments to get it to feel great.

Just my opinion Jayem, I appreciate the comments and critic.
Stability? How much did it control chassis movement in the "open" setting? How was sharp-edged bump absorption in the "trail" setting?
 
Thanks, that's a really bad review. No idea on how it performs compared to other comparable shocks. No discussion on the damping internals and how they do or do not work or achieve their intended goal, etc. It's like most every other suspension review: this is great, everything is great, we don't dare compare or actually dive into it at all...

As an example, my DVO jade has really really light compression damping...way too light, even compared to a Bomber CR. For that reason, it's pretty much unusable in stock configuration. Dougal has gone into more detail about their design and function...but that's exactly what a review should be.
I certainly agree that this "review" lacked anything of any real substance.

I really hope DVO didn't send this to him for free, for this.

As for the compression tune on your Jade, did you speak to DVO about it?

Was it purchased aftermarket, or was it stocked on the bike?

Custom tunes are easy achieve, either in your garage or send it back to DVO for the work.
 
I certainly agree that this "review" lacked anything of any real substance.

I really hope DVO didn't send this to him for free, for this.

As for the compression tune on your Jade, did you speak to DVO about it?

Was it purchased aftermarket, or was it stocked on the bike?

Custom tunes are easy achieve, either in your garage or send it back to DVO for the work.
It was stock with the bike. I'm going to get DVO to revalve it, hopefully fix it. Custom tunes are not offered on their website (as in buy a kit) and guessing is not a good method here, nor is their shock service really easy like on my RS Super D. There's a lot more steps with the bladder and I don't see the "really easy" aspect of this that many claim. It's at least as complicated as others. I also assume the Topaz as mentioned above only comes in ONE aftermarket tune when you buy it from a supplier like Jenson, Wheelworld, etc.? That will make it unsuitable for a lot of bikes right off the bat.
 
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It was stock with the bike. I'm going to get DVO to revalve it, hopefully fix it. Custom tunes are not offered on their website (as in buy a kit) and guessing is not a good method here, nor is their shock service really easy like on my RS Super D. There's a lot more steps with the bladder and I don't see the "really easy" aspect of this that many claim. It's at least as complicated as others. I also assume the Topaz as mentioned above only comes in ONE aftermarket tune when you buy it from a supplier like Jenson, Wheelworld, etc.? That will make it unsuitable for a lot of bikes right off the bat.
That's why I purchase direct from DVO at this point. Easy to work with them to get the tune done before it ever ships to your door.

Either way, I don't think you have to guess at it. If you call DVO they will typically walk you through the changes to the shim stack they would be making and how to do it yourself if you wanted to.

As for the really easy comments, I can only point to my experience of doing a rebuild on my Topaz. It's a lot of steps, but nothing complicated.
 
Maybe this review would feel more at home there with all the other 2020-2022 join dates? It's about that level.
I can understand the logic if you’re upset that it’s a fairly incomplete and poor “review”.

But I don’t think it would have mattered if this review was a masterpiece, the fact that it was bolted to an e-bike is all some will notice.

The fact that it’s on an e-bike is the least of my concerns with this review.
 
I can understand the logic if you’re upset that it’s a fairly incomplete and poor “review”.
This review speaks for itself. I'm just snarking... but I will say a lot of glib takes and low-quality posts come from the 202X ebike posters and the like.

Edit: To be constructive, this is 'unboxing and first impressions'. With that framing, it's a decent article.
 
How about...

Looks interesting. But is this a complete shock with the compression adjustments you had to buy separately previously, or a completely new product? I don't ride DVO components so I have no idea.
 
How about...

Looks interesting. But is this a complete shock with the compression adjustments you had to buy separately previously, or a completely new product? I don't ride DVO components so I have no idea.
As advertised, looks like you have to buy a completely new shock. For riding aggressive, the damping in my DVO shocks sucks pretty bad. Maybe this is better...but I ain't spending $600 on a DVO when I know of better shocks. I would consider an upgrade if this screwed into the Jade X I have...
 
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