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#3 ·
Some things appear to be getting better on Chinese carbon frames, like cable management, but I'm constantly SHOCKED by how poorly they understand geometry. It would be SOOO easy to just copy a Trek, or a Santa Cruz, or whatever.

Specifically in size XL: the STA get STEEPER as the sizing goes up. As many people have already figured out a 77 degree STA on a hardtail is too steep for some people.

That seattube is also 540mm which is LONG leaving room for only a short dropper.

Chainstays 445mm, pretty long, too long for me but maybe not for some. Definitely less important to me if I was building a dedicated race bike though.

I'm super picky, and I know what I want out of a frame, but this one misses the mark for me. Crazy how cheap the frames are though. Ultimately I'd rather pay more and get what I want.
 
#5 ·
*OneSpeed* said:
Some things appear to be getting better on Chinese carbon frames, like cable management, but I'm constantly SHOCKED by how poorly they understand geometry. It would be SOOO easy to just copy a Trek, or a Santa Cruz, or whatever.

Specifically in size XL: the STA get STEEPER as the sizing goes up. As many people have already figured out a 77 degree STA on a hardtail is too steep for some people.

That seattube is also 540mm which is LONG leaving room for only a short dropper.

Chainstays 445mm, pretty long, too long for me but maybe not for some. Definitely less important to me if I was building a dedicated race bike though.

I'm super picky, and I know what I want out of a frame, but this one misses the mark for me. Crazy how cheap the frames are though. Ultimately I'd rather pay more and get what I want.
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My personal experience is that not all riders are average dimensions, and not everyone will fit a slacker STA bike. You can slide the seat forward or backward to effectively change the STA to several degrees steeper/slacker.

STA is adjustable a few degrees, and just like bar-width and stem length that people seem to be fixated on, it's just never been that big of a deal if i can still fit the bike.
 
#6 ·
malucky said:
My personal experience is that not all riders are average dimensions, and not everyone will fit a slacker STA bike. You can slide the seat forward or backward to effectively change the STA to several degrees steeper/slacker.

STA is adjustable a few degrees, and just like bar-width and stem length that people seem to be fixated on, it's just never been that big of a deal if i can still fit the bike.
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By all means, buy one and report back on what you think. (y)
 
#17 ·
Still really like my XL.
Ridden hard 3x/week.
A lot of vertical flex in the rear (almost soft tail feel).
I think it is important to have a long insertion of the seatpost.
I bought it to see if the 'new" geometry is for me (it is!) and then buy a steel frame.
I like this one too much though.
I think the price went down too!
Almost would buy one and put it on the shelf in case I break it.
 
#19 ·
Broke mine where the chain stay connects with the seat tube.
178 lbs rider . XC use. No jumping.
BXT said they would not warranty because my dropper post was 175 mm.
BS argument.
Cracked right where you would expect it to break…
 
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