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Racecar · Feb 15, 2020

OK, I think I am getting the Enduro mindset here. Forget about light weight, go for max strength. I am looking at rims now. I want to have a backup set for when I go to Whistler for 4 days. Need to get the strongest rims with the strongest hubs I can buy, right?

not2shabby · Feb 15, 2020

Ok, in your 1st post you say hitting the 'jumps and lift trails'. In your last post, you say 10 foot drops. If I was planning on going to Whistler, I'd rent a bike instead of beating my Fuel (150/140mm travel) to death. A XC frame just isn't designed to handle 10' drops. A flyweight finesse expert rider might get away with it...a 250 lb noob? You're asking for trouble. If you don't have any experience hitting jumps/drops (maybe you've done moto-x?) I'd suggest you start out on the blue trails and maybe ride with someone who's been there to 'tow you around' so you don't under/over shoot the jumps.
Not trying to be harsh, just don't want you to get hurt.
And yes, there's a lot of difference between a XC and an enduro bike.

not2shabby · Feb 15, 2020

One more thing, I've never been to Whistler, but trail ratings vary quite a bit from place to place. A blue trail at Whistler would probably be a black at a lot of other places. Check your ego until you get some mojo going! Have fun...I'm jealous.

Racecar · Feb 15, 2020

Lift trails; yes. Small jumps on blue trails; yes. Black trails: no.
In the last post I said I am NOT going off 10 foot drops. I do appreciate your input, that is what forums are for, to learn from others. Rentals are way too much money. I am building a bike so I can go and ride, not to leave it at home.
I keep hearing that XC bikes are not the same as Enduro, but what is the difference. Enduro bikes have more suspension travel, and heavy duty hubs, wheels, suspension arms. Is that the idea of an Enduro bike?

not2shabby · Feb 15, 2020

My bad, I thought you said you were going to do 10' drops! An enduro bike would be fine then for what you want to do. They have slacker head angles, stronger frames, more (and better) suspension travel, stronger wheels and components than xc bikes. All being suited to going downhill fast on rough terrain much better than a xc bike.

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Racecar · Feb 15, 2020

not2shabby said:
My bad, I thought you said you were going to do 10' drops! An enduro bike would be fine then for what you want to do. They have slacker head angles, stronger frames, more (and better) suspension travel, stronger wheels and components than xc bikes. All being suited to going downhill fast on rough terrain much better than a xc bike.

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Thanks. Enduro bike = strong wheels, strong suspension arms, more travel, etc. OK, now I know what to look for. I still have a lot of options in this bike build. I have the frame and all parts modeled on the CAD system, so I can try different components and see how it all fits together. I started out planning 100/100, but now I see I can actually use a 150mm fork, and get 130mm travel on the rear. More would be better, but for the kind of trails and (small) jumps I am going for, this should work fine. I appreciate your input. You nailed it. I have a big decade birthday coming up in September. That will be the perfect time to be in the Whistler mountains on this bike to celebrate.

not2shabby · Feb 16, 2020

Just keep in mind the trails you'll be riding most of the time. If there's quite a bit of climbing involved a medium travel 'all mountain' or 'trail' bike (130-140mm) might suit you better and still handle the blue trails at Whistler. IMHO, it's better to be a little 'over biked'; it could save your but if you get in over your head and should hold up longer than a light XC frame. Others may not agree...depends on where/how you ride.

Racecar · Feb 16, 2020

not2shabby said:
Just keep in mind the trails you'll be riding most of the time. If there's quite a bit of climbing involved a medium travel 'all mountain' or 'trail' bike (130-140mm) might suit you better and still handle the blue trails at Whistler. IMHO, it's better to be a little 'over biked'; it could save your but if you get in over your head and should hold up longer than a light XC frame. Others may not agree...depends on where/how you ride.

Agreed. I am not looking for those big hit trails, plan on cruising the blue ones and working up to the jumps there. My priorities have changed from what I have learned here.
I was planning a lightweight bike with 100/100 travel. Now I am looking for strong components, and 150/130 travel.
Looking for new heavy duty rims next. Better to be over-biked than bent. Thanks for your objective input.

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