I've only ridden out there once and friends want to go back but I was wondering how the dirt out there might be after the rain we've had the past couple days? If it's going to be ugly, I'll just go ride Noble Canyon 
I'll send you a PM....How do I not know where all these trails are with the most amazing names....Is there a Space Balls trail as well?
GrayWhat level trail are these?
Good to know, thank you. I may have to try some of this area on my monstercross bike once I upgrade my current brakes(acceptable, but want ait better for when I get on easier technical descents). Is it easy relatively easy to get a permit from the Marines?The trails in the valley bottoms are pretty flat / easy. The ones that climb up to ridgelines and drop back down are intermediate with some technical parts. The ones you won't find unless someone shows you tend to be more difficult. FYI none of these trails are technically legal so best to keep info posted online to a minimum. They are not on Trailforks / MTB project etc for that reason. Go explore! Just stay off the Miramar base land.
The Stowe trail is the only legal trail, but you need a permit from the Marines to ride it from Fanita through to Sycamore Goodan Ranch. Going west of Stowe onto the base will get you a ticket.
Check out this post. It's super easy to get the pass as long as you don't have a criminal record.Is it easy relatively easy to get a permit from the Marines?
Yep. We should start seeing some trail work announcements soon, methinks.Rain is actually a good thing, too, in the big picture.
It's North Santee: https://www.google.com/maps/place/S...4m5!3m4!1s0x80dbe2b37be990f1:0x59e59ff74d4604c8!8m2!3d32.8383828!4d-116.9739167How do I not know where all these trails are with the most amazing names....
Is there a Space Balls trail as well?
Shhhhh...... It's all rumor, nothing there to paste into your "strava feed". Try Black Mtn & Rancho Skinny P :thumbsup:It's North Santee:..............(clipped) I haven't been to the equivalent one off the I-215 near Murrieta yet but North Santee has it all and it's a quick drive on the 125 or the 52.
Re-posting this for those who missed it the first time. Please don't post maps, directions or detailed trail info. ThxFYI none of these trails are technically legal so best to keep info posted online to a minimum. They are not on Trailforks / MTB project etc for that reason.
WTF is wrong with people?!Re-posting this for those who missed it the first time. Please don't post maps, directions or detailed trail info. Thx