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You might want to reconsider the whole degreasing of the chain thing. The problem is that if you soak the chain it gets all of the lube out of the pins and links, not good. You would be much better off cleaning the chain, using a good lube. The carrier fluid in the lube will pick up grime and then deposit a new layer of lube on the chain. If you chase all of the lube out of your chain with a degreaser soak, you will have a much shortened chain life.

As for the cassette, I would strongly recommend removal of the cassette if you are going to use degreaser. You get that stuff into your cassette body and it bye-bye for the body. Not a cheap fix, particularly if you have high end components.
I used to completely degrease my chain off the bike using Tergosol, then clean off with a lower pressure water blaster. I then lubricated the chain in a hot bath chain lubricant. I'm just back into cycling now after 16 years (I can ebike with my damaged knee) and intend to do similar, although this time converting to Paraffin for lubrication
If I remember correctly, you do not want to use Tergosol anywhere near rubber, so if I do not remove my cassette I'd use something else on them, perhaps a lemon based solvent ... or is there something better I should try?
Mark
 
I used to use Simple Green myself and it does a great job, but now I just use "Rock n Roll Extreme" lube. The RnR cleans and lubes in one step, fast and easy!
Another vote for R&R Extreme. Been using it for many years.
Step 1: wipe dirty chain really well with dry cotton rag
Step 2: apply R&R Extreme
Step 3: wipe as much away as possible from chain, front chain ring and derailleur sprockets.
Periodically scrub cassette with cassette brush. Dry lube/dirt just falls away.

Easy.

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If you want to spend a LOT of $$$$$$ use the bike specific stuff.
For a fair and low cost, and been done by chain saw operators/motorcyclist...
Take the chain off along with the cassette and put them in a jar/tin,etc with gasoline or kerosene with the lid on over night if really gunked/dirty and gooey. If just Light grime a few minutes with a brush and gasoline or kerosene and it will be like new.
Rotate 2 or 3 chains always having the extra clean and lubed ready to go.
 
If you want to spend a LOT of $$$$$$ use the bike specific stuff.
For a fair and low cost, and been done by chain saw operators/motorcyclist...
Take the chain off along with the cassette and put them in a jar/tin,etc with gasoline or kerosene with the lid on over night if really gunked/dirty and gooey. If just Light grime a few minutes with a brush and gasoline or kerosene and it will be like new.
Rotate 2 or 3 chains always having the extra clean and lubed ready to go.
Lots of money? A quart of r&r extreme is < $20. Lasts me a year and i use it after almost every ride. My chain stays spotless and last longer too. The extreme is terrible in the dry though. Even the gold wont go more than 20 miles of dust.

I started using a product from oneball that is similar to r&r but lasts longer in rain and dry.

I used to clean my chains with the process you describe above. Super messy pita. Probably the biggest improvement to my bike ownerahip was starting to use a cleaner lube.
 
It's a good thing this thread was brought back from 12 years ago so we can finally put to rest the best chain lube and cleaning methods.
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sorry had to reply to your reply

The harsh chemicals I was using started to bother me. This method is 90% as effective as a solvent.

Mix; empty 32oz gatorade bottle, chain, 24oz boiling water, Dawn dishsoap, shake for a couple of minutes, rinse. If chain is super filthy might have to repeat but on round 2 chain is for sure clean as if you used a solvent.
 
sorry had to reply to your reply

The harsh chemicals I was using started to bother me. This method is 90% as effective as a solvent.

Mix; empty 32oz gatorade bottle, chain, 24oz boiling water, Dawn dishsoap, shake for a couple of minutes, rinse. If chain is super filthy might have to repeat but on round 2 chain is for sure clean as if you used a solvent.
No. You didn't. You felt like it for some reason I cannot fathom. And for the uninitiated, this is just a good way to:
A) Burn yourself.
B) Waste time.
C) Bah, it's not even necessary if you've heard of Simple Green biodegradable degreaser and you know how to not spill crap everywhere. Or have access to rubber gloves. Maybe both.
D) All of the above.

*hint: it's D.
 
No. You didn't. You felt like it for some reason I cannot fathom. And for the uninitiated, this is just a good way to:
A) Burn yourself.
Ya I could see this, but no different from cooking pasta
B) Waste time.
Works great
C) Bah, it's not even necessary if you've heard of Simple Green biodegradable degreaser and you know how to not spill crap everywhere. Or have access to rubber gloves. Maybe both.
I had Dawn in my kitchen no simple green, its still used to clean birds after oil spills, less odor than Simple Green, less vapors than solvents
D) All of the above.

*hint: it's D.
Truly sorry to offend.
 
Truly sorry to offend.
I wasn't offended, just confused and concerned for the kid who might read this and fill up his bottle with boiling water, shake it and have the lid pop off from the steam pressure. The rest was just my opinion to be taken as such.

Just a note: I've heard dish detergent can dull the paint finish (something about removing polymers, but you can look it up if you like). I only rinse w/water and a soft cloth so can't confirm. I'd grab car cleaning soap if I were to look for a cheaper option, but those can be pricey, too.

I also rarely clean my chain and just re-lube with R&R Gold and wipe off the excess every ride or 3 as needed. This won't work for everyone since conditons vary. :thumbsup:
 
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