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#21 ·
Your mom would notice the difference. ;)

It is very expensive to upgrade to that fork and it will significantly affect resale to have that fork.

Absolute mistake to buy a coil fork if you can make the decision now.... (this does not apply to all people and all coil forks, GOOD coil forks have their place.)
 
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I'm pretty sure the sync'r has a coil and mason has an air fork. I rode for about 20 mins yesterday on some light trails before it got dark yesterday and it seemed like it soaked up the bumps pretty damn well but I've never owned a decent bike before.

Buddy just got his mason assembled and we should be hitting the trails Sunday together and should be able to give a solid update of the pros and cons of the two bikes
 
#23 ·
the biggest difference in a bike feel in this range is XCT coil fork vs air fork. It matters mroe than frame brand, 8x10 speed, bla bla. This is why my advice always centers around buying the best component and fork level u can for hte dollar = online clearance bikes >> LBS bikes. you can check my post history if you want to see all the debates i ahve with others in this forum about it.

anyone will notice the significantly nicer ride of an air fork within 10seconds on the bike. Ill rock and XCT for years if that's what i got, but if you got money, that air fork is a great upgrade. Wont' stop someone else with a janky bike whooping your ass o the trails though, rider not the bike.
 
#24 ·
bob13bob said:
the biggest difference in a bike feel in this range is XCT coil fork vs air fork. It matters mroe than frame brand, 8x10 speed, bla bla. This is why my advice always centers around buying the best component and fork level u can for hte dollar = online clearance bikes >> LBS bikes. you can check my post history if you want to see all the debates i ahve with others in this forum about it.

anyone will notice the significantly nicer ride of an air fork within 10seconds on the bike. Ill rock and XCT for years if that's what i got, but if you got money, that air fork is a great upgrade. Wont' stop someone else with a janky bike whooping your ass o the trails though, rider not the bike.
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So, would you say any air fork is better than any coil fork?
SR Suntour XCR-32 Air, 27.5+ vs Rockshox Recon Silver, Coil??

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#26 ·
Dwoith72 said:
So, would you say any air fork is better than any coil fork?
SR Suntour XCR-32 Air, 27.5+ vs Rockshox Recon Silver, Coil??

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It doesn't sound like that guy has much experience with suspension.

Cheap forks don't work well because they're poorly made. It has nothing to do with them having a coil.

Push makes a coil shock that costs about $1100, and it's about as good as it gets.
 
#27 ·
Dwoith72 said:
So, would you say any air fork is better than any coil fork?
SR Suntour XCR-32 Air, 27.5+ vs Rockshox Recon Silver, Coil??

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I haven't ridden every air fork and coil fork. But the biggest air fork epicon I currently have is much better than XCT/XCR coil. I haven't ridden a new recon "silver", but i have never been happy with any other rockshox coil, so that as you will. Go to the suspension forums and ask there for a better response.

edit: looks like i was 100% on they money.
http://forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspension/rockshox-recon-silver-vs-sr-suntour-epixon-1007378.html
 
#28 ·
One Pivot said:
It doesn't sound like that guy has much experience with suspension.

Cheap forks don't work well because they're poorly made. It has nothing to do with them having a coil.

Push makes a coil shock that costs about $1100, and it's about as good as it gets.
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i'm not a guru with suspension, but you are wrong. I have a lot of experience on the bikes and forks from lower than XCT tier to SID. Yes i simplified the statement, because I try to keep it simple and tmi that is can be confusing, because we are talking about this bracket of bikes Of course you could try to strawman and throw an exception to a rule by bringing up a $1200 rear shock vs the front fork?

If you really have something to add, link at least link to a knowledgeable dicussion on here about coil vs air forks.

Cheap doesn't necessarily mean not good. The epicon/epixon is $180 shipped, the marvel pro is $260 shipped (from memory). Those are the forks i would get, huge performance in handling and weight over the coil forks that come on these bikes. Very good value and perform better than forks that cost more than them.
 
#29 ·
One Pivot said:
It doesn't sound like that guy has much experience with suspension.

Cheap forks don't work well because they're poorly made. It has nothing to do with them having a coil.

Push makes a coil shock that costs about $1100, and it's about as good as it gets.
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This guy was just curious if the rockshox coil fork is generally accepted as better than the cheapest Suntour airfork. Looks to be a mute point as the rockshox on the Sync'r is also an airfork!

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Discussion starter · #30 ·
Hey just checking back in. To confirm what's been said, my sync'r also says it's an air fork. Seems like 2017 was a big upgrade year for the bike since it went from coil to airfork and got 1x11 vs 1x10.

Loving the bike, definitely would recommend it after about 6 1.5-3 hour first rides and a few scrapes and bruises to show for it I'm pretty hooked! Not so sure I love it quite the way I love snowboarding but it's great in its own way and an amazing workout. The feeling after a 3 hour ride and few falls reminds me of my rugby days - in a good way!

Can't really compare to the mason since my friend has been a bum and hasn't even gone one a ride with his yet.

So far I've learned the decently good shape I'm in, is fairly mediocre as far as mountain biking goes. Got smoked on an uphill by some 140 lbs 18 year olds haha

Only issue I've had with the bike is I can't get it to shift into its lowest gear since I did my first ride, seems like I may need a trip to the LBS!

Thanks for everyone's help in making a great decision!
 
#31 ·
Theres a video on Diamondback page or plenty of youtube videos on how to adjust limiter screws. Glad you like your Sync'r.

I put on a KS ETEN dropper post from Jensen with a Southpaw lever and love it.
 
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#32 ·
I'm glad of found this thread. I was looking at the 2017 Sync'r myself, but was curious about the fork being coil or air. At a msrp of 1200, i was hoping for an air fork, but was disappointed when I read that it was a coil fork on the site. Seems like, from the reviews, it's an air fork. I'm 5'10, should I go with a medium or large frame? I'm on the boarder using DB's reference.
I'll also be buying it through the corporate discount.
 
#33 ·
ginro said:
I'm glad of found this thread. I was looking at the 2017 Sync'r myself, but was curious about the fork being coil or air. At a msrp of 1200, i was hoping for an air fork, but was disappointed when I read that it was a coil fork on the site. Seems like, from the reviews, it's an air fork. I'm 5'10, should I go with a medium or large frame? I'm on the boarder using DB's reference.
I'll also be buying it through the corporate discount.
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You could go either way on frame size and it comes down to personal preference. A medium frame you'll be more 'on' the bike rather than 'in' the bike with a large frame. Medium frame might have a more rearward weight balance bias that can make the bike more poppy and agile. Larger frame could have your weight more centered between the wheels and with the longer wheelbase provide a more stable ride.
 
#35 ·
bob13bob said:
if you are pretty certian you wil actually use your bike and not let it be a garage queen, always strech the budget up front (to a certain value sweet spot). You'll always regret buying a cheaper rig later when you find out it costs 2x to upgrade than if you had just bought it in the first place.

otoh, don't obsess over bike parts. you can have a ton of fun on a $450 (if you snipe a great deal) bike and outride most people on the trail. Rider, not the bike. more $$ bikes just ride nicer, faster, less headache problems which can save you money in the long run.

welcome to the sport.
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Bob, beyond a 3x8 cassette and hydraulic brakes, what bike parts would you recommend on a sub $1000 bike? And I don't think we should get into FS vs. hardtail LOL so assume hardtail bike.
 
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#36 ·
I'm 5'8" and just got a 17" medium frame on a 27.5" bike, and it's perfect. My last (and first) 27.5" bike was a 20" frame and it rode like a small horse, very hard to get off the bike before an impending crash. So if you are 5'10" a 19" frame is probably best.
 
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#38 ·
this has been a good thread to read . it's been 17 years since I have been in a bike.
My old bike was a full rigid mongoose that I ride till it died. Almost 10 years of use and abuse. So many different options frame sizes styles now days. Good to see some info on fit for returning new guys. I'm 5'8" 32" inseam. This gives me an idea of what to look for. Thanks
 
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