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And the answer is 3x! :thumbsup:

'Number of Intersections' is the language the DT swiss tool uses. Since its a 3x lacing type....I need to enter 16 per side, as so the the tool gives me 241mm/242mm recommended lenght.

CONCLUSION: the spokes laced on this wheel are too long (250mm/255mm)
Dood! Why would you take 3 and turn it into 16?!? Where did you see that described in any instructions or guidance? If it were a 3 cross wheel (meaning 3 intersections per spoke), the number of intersections is 3.
HOWEVER, you don't have a 3x wheel.
 
Dood! Why would you take 3 and turn it into 16?!? Where did you see that described in any instructions or guidance? If it were a 3 cross wheel (meaning 3 intersections per spoke), the number of intersections is 3.
HOWEVER, you don't have a 3x wheel.
here is what the DT swiss uses and the examples it gives:


...so if its a 3x lacing...I'm using the bottom left example...and I see 16 total intersections.
 
Let's count the number of intersections (aka "cross pattern").
The spoke of interest is indicated by the red arrow. How many spokes from the same side of the hub does it cross between the hub and the rim?
 
here is what the DT swiss uses and the examples it gives:
View attachment 1101702

...so if its a 3x lacing...I'm using the bottom left example...and I see 16 total intersections.
intersections are per spoke
those examples are 1x, 2x, 3x, and 4x, for which the "number of intersections" is 1,2,3, and 4, respectively.
 
Let's count the number of intersections (aka "cross pattern").
The spoke of interest is indicated by the red arrow. How many spokes from the same side of the hub does it cross between the hub and the rim? View attachment 1101704
Ok...thanks for you dedication. My mistake was entering the very total number of crossings from 16 spokes. So I learned that I only need to enter 2 on the DT swiss tool.

now makes more sense. I indicating 250mm/251mm recommended lenght.
New Conclusion: half of the spokes are right at 250 the second half (255mm) is 4mm too long.
 
Got it...my wheel is the top right example. Ok! learned everything I needed! Now I can start building wheels and charge customers for it...gonna be rich!:D

...just kidding.
Wheel building from scratch generally pays less that sandwich building from scratch. But if you're rich and want to make the world better one spoke at a time, it's a great way to start.
 
DT revolution are listed with black and silver options on DT site.
Just measure the middle section of the spoke with a caliper, if it's 1.5mm is a Rev, if it's 1.7mm it's a Super Comp.
I have a High precision caliper and I'm averaging 1.45mm to 1.48mm on mid section. So its a Revolution! great news....also because doing the math mine are lighter than advertised!

I'm stocked because after using the spoke length tool I will be able to use these same DT Rev spokes (from prior lefty wheel build) on my new Front wheel build...with WTB scraper i40 rim and american classic 130 hub. Recommended spoke lenght is showing 251mm/252mm (mine DT rev spokes are 250mm/255mm).

final weight should be around 760g for the front wheel only!

Wheel will be paired with a WTB 26+ x 3.0 tire on a DT swiss EXC 150mm. Can't wait to try this 'Trail Couch' :thumbsup:
 
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