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What is your eye looking at 20 wise.

PK
On paper, I really like the Rocky Mountain Vertex 20. Spinner air fork, Shimano hydro discs and that SRAM Automatix hub for $750 MSRP is a pretty solid balance between price and performance. The auto hub on a kid's bike is brilliant since it seems like proper shifting is not the easiest concept for most 6-8 year-olds to grasp. All they have to do is ride, and we don't have to worry about keeping their RD in tune and/or them destroying it. The range could be better since it's only 136%, but that's still better than the 14-28 cassettes you see on all the 6/7-speed setups.

Norco releasing their new full-suspension 20" has changed everything though. I have said before that there was no way I would buy a FS 20", but that was when your options were Lil Shredder for $$$$$$$, the cheaper but still overpriced tank from Commencal, or try and import a Propain which seems to be a huge PITA. The Norco is "only" $1,500 with a great parts spec, and I can easily purchase it through a local dealer. My son is riding well enough that a FS is justified and I also like the geo better than any of the HT options. I've started stashing away a little money each month in anticipation of picking one up next fall.
 
Do not rule out how smart kids are when it comes to shifting gears. They grasp the concept pretty quick.

I wish someone made a true light xc bike. We don't need a bike for jumping, just a nice light xc machine. Her Hotrock 20 is no doubt good and capable, I just know if a bit more focus went into the frame it could lose more weight.

On the xc stuff, the modified Minitou was resprung and easily works taking the hits. If and when they begin to need a DJ bike, I'll build that. Just like us grown ups, we build bikes for each discipline if we see the need.

PK
 
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Did you simply grind down that inside of the chain side seat stay?

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For the V brake adaptors I carefully ground and shaped the inner top corners of the adaptors just below the horizontal securing bolt (circled below). I just ground it for a few seconds and checked it against the chainstay and continued slowly until it matched the shape I was looking for. I had zero experience in this and a machine shop would probably get it 100% but the end result was (and still is) fine.



My major issue with grinding was getting the bottom bracket adaptor in. There was a significant 1-2mm lip inside and this took a bit of work and time to remove.
 
If anyone is looking for a one of these Specialized Hotrock 16 bikes, I have one that is stock and for sale.

These are a pretty good base to do a few inexpensive mods and have a sweet mini mountain bike since the one I have for sale has an aluminum frame, wheels and bars.
 

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Did you simply grind down that inside of the chain side seat stay?

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For the V brake adaptors I carefully ground and shaped the inner top corners of the adaptors just below the horizontal securing bolt (circled below). I just ground it for a few seconds and checked it against the chainstay and continued slowly until it matched the shape I was looking for. I had zero experience in this and a machine shop would probably get it 100% but the end result was (and still is) fine.

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My major issue with grinding was getting the bottom bracket adaptor in. There was a significant 1-2mm lip inside and this took a bit of work and time to remove.
Thx soh67. We broke out the grinder tonight and. Went to work. I did a combo bracket mod and shaved a bit off the seat stay
 
Might be almost as cheap buying another fork. A specialized dealer might be able to get you a price for one. If you wanted to use that adapter, you could just weld the thing on!
It's for the rear not the front. I thought about getting the bosses welded to the seat stays but I would have to repaint the bike. I guess the Evolution ones are the way to go they are just so expensive for what they are.
 
I've used that same adaptor, and will continue to do so in the future.

It's bulky, ulgy, and heavy, but does give you an avenue to add v brakes to the rear of the bike. Functionally, it works great.

I would love to see someone make a nice looking lightweight version of that for kids bikes.
 
I have contacted a couple of frame shops about getting bosses put on. Since the frame is aluminum they cannot be brazed. They can be welded on but neither of the shops I talked to welded aluminum. They also said that welding would weaken the frame at that point so it really needs to be heat treated after. Therefore, even if I could find someone to do it, the cost would be prohibitive.

I'm going to go ahead and order the evolutions.
 
The seat and post is still original. Would have preferred to simply swap out the steel post for aluminium but nothing was an easy direct fit. Even the padded bmx mini seats were a little 'bare' for a 4 year old kid.

Financially it wasn't worth it although there are limited alternatives here with the exception of a byk. However the time it took building it up together was priceless and she now has an interest in bikes that should stick. I've already got my eye on the next step to a 20" and this one will find a good home.
Would the original rear wheel have been compatible with the V brake? And was the dremel to the seat stay necessary for the clamp to work?
 
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