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kosayno

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For 12 years I've been trying to get my wife into biking. Whether it be mountain, road, commuting, anything really, but to no avail. However, this year she started commuting to work and has been loving it so much that she can't stand driving to work anymore, even lately when the temps have been below freezing during her commuting hours. Naturally as a cyclist this has gotten me excited. So as any good frame-building husband would do, I decided to finally build her how own bike; a bamboo disc brake cross bike with integrated seatpost and bamboo fork.

As someone who doesn't really know anything about frame designs or bikes in general, the only thing she wanted to have was a rear rack for panniers. Also the one complaint she has about her current road bike is that is that her feet hit the front tires often during when the handlebars turn when she starts pedaling from a standstill or during big turns. So with that in mind I decided to increase the top tube 30mm and use a shorter 60mm stem to keep the cockpit length the same way that she currently likes. I used a slacker 71 degree headtube also to clear a few extra millimeters. Final geometry was 560mm tt, 420mm ss, 70mm bb drop, 71 deg headtube, 73 deg st.

For the fork dropout I used 4mm carbon fiber plates I had leftover from another frame build and sandwiched them together for extra thickness and just cut them to shape. I make a quick jig out of wood for the disc brake mounts with a 5mm offset. The fork measures 425mm a/c and the rake is 50mm.

I currently have a handful of Paragon's DR2010 disc dropouts which don't have eyelets for rear racks. With too many dropouts already I didn't want to order another one with eyelets for the racks so I just decided to use one of the disc brake tabs to mount the rear rack and add another tab for the drive side.

All in all I'm happy with the way this one came out. The ride is much smoother than the aluminum she was riding which was to be expected. The longer top tube, shorter stem and longer fork rake makes the bike feel slower but more comfortable than a typical road bike. Almost handles like a mountain bike if you will. My wife loves the way bike feels overall so that's what really matters.

EDIT: Apparently I can build bike frames but am completely lost on how to insert images into a thread. So here's the link instead
 
Great job dude, your wife must be stoked. I imagine a bamboo frame would have some nice absorption properties, ideal for commuting :thumbsup: As to placing images in a thread, just copy the URL for the image and post it with a img tag - edit, had to go into the page code to pull the actual URL, don't use Flickr so not sure how else to do it.

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LyNx,
Thanks for inserting some of the images. It's been awhile since I've posted any pictures on MTBR and things have changed. I keep getting errormessages when trying to insert url's. Maybe I'll just try to upload directly from my pc later when I get home from work.

As far as the absorption properties of bamboo goes, you really have to ride one to ride to see. I don't have experience with carbon but compared to steel, the bumps feel less jarring. It almost has a dead feel to it compared to steel or alu, which feels much livelier I guess is how I would put it. That's either good or bad depending on what characteristics you're looking for.
 
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That is very nice! It's probably just my metal-centric bias talking - but no way would I ride a bamboo fork! B
Haha. I could see how the thought of a bamboo fork would be a little scary but rest assured I have excellent dental insurance. I've actually commuted it all week with this bike and the fork is plenty stiff.

Right now I'm in the process of making another bamboo fork for my bike with the intention of being able to ride single track with my road bike. Never say never but I wouldn't make these forks if I wasn't confident that it won't break.
 
Nice job yet again kosayno! Well done.

MDEnvEngr - agreed, or at least, I wouldn't ride an ultra light weight bamboo fork. It would have to be a bit heavy. I have some bamboo poles on hand that I *would* trust, but they're... full bodied. Like you could hurt something with them.

I gotta say I love how the bamboo fork completes the look. Quite rare indeed.
 
Very cool project Im glad your willing to offer your teeth for science!!! Does the disc brake over power the fork at all?
 
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Very cool project Im glad your willing to offer your teeth for science!!! Does the disc brake over power the fork at all?
I was testing this out and under normal braking using the front and rear I don't notice any flex. Even under heavy load. However, under heavy braking at high speed with just the front brake applied there is noticeable flex. I don't have any scientific method to measure the amount but if I had to estimate I would say 1/2". I was a little worried at first then again the only time this is noticeable is under really heavy braking with just the front brake which isn't how we normally brake. So far I've put about 100 miles commuting and I absolutely not worried about this. Time will tell though.
 
Sounds like just what you need here to ride most of the roads since a lot of them are rougher than some single track :D

LyNx, as far as the absorption properties of bamboo goes, you really have to ride one to ride to see. I don't have experience with carbon but compared to steel, the bumps feel less jarring. It almost has a dead feel to it compared to steel or alu, which feels much livelier I guess is how I would put it. That's either good or bad depending on what characteristics you're looking for.
Don't worry, I think that's about what the original Reba 29er forks did too :skep: :D

I was testing this out and under normal braking using the front and rear I don't notice any flex. Even under heavy load. However, under heavy braking at high speed with just the front brake applied there is noticeable flex. I don't have any scientific method to measure the amount but if I had to estimate I would say 1/2". I was a little worried at first then again the only time this is noticeable is under really heavy braking with just the front brake which isn't how we normally brake. So far I've put about 100 miles commuting and I absolutely not worried about this. Time will tell though.
 
Thanks. Are you still doing bamboo or are you onto different projects? I still have the fatty wheelset I built two years ago staring at me in the basement. That's up next. I've got a couple new ideas to try with that project.
I got heavily focused into high zoot carbon processing because the way I wanted to do bamboo frames efficiently was detrimental to the long term health of the bamboo itself.

I felt I had to keep them separated up until bonding time. So, all carbon projects are the word, but it's not like I'm abandoning bamboo by any means. Whatever someone is interested in.

I totally want to see your take on a bamboo fatty. So many ways to go about it, holy buckets.
 
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I was testing this out and under normal braking using the front and rear I don't notice any flex. Even under heavy load. However, under heavy braking at high speed with just the front brake applied there is noticeable flex. I don't have any scientific method to measure the amount but if I had to estimate I would say 1/2". I was a little worried at first then again the only time this is noticeable is under really heavy braking with just the front brake which isn't how we normally brake. So far I've put about 100 miles commuting and I absolutely not worried about this. Time will tell though.
I take back my statement. I exhibit the same kind of flex under the the same situations with my mtb forks and carbon road fork as well. I don't think it's the fork flexing from brake input but rather the just the just the way the momentum of the bike causing flex throughout the fork when applying load only to the front brake if that makes any sense.
 
So, it's been some months since OP on this thread. I'm resurrecting it cuz I'm curious to know how the bamboo fork is holding up. Have always thought it would be nice to have a bamboo frame AND fork but felt like bamboo wasn't quite suited to the typical steertube, crown and two legs configuration. But you did it, and didn't lose teeth in the first 100 miles. So, still got all your teeth?! :)
 
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So, it's been some months since OP on this thread. I'm resurrecting it cuz I'm curious to know how the bamboo fork is holding up. Have always thought it would be nice to have a bamboo frame AND fork but felt like bamboo wasn't quite suited to the typical steertube, crown and two legs configuration. But you did it, and didn't lose teeth in the first 100 miles. So, still got all your teeth?! :)
Yep, still have all my pearly whites. My wife is the one that actually commutes to work with the bike almost everyday. Fork is still holding up great.
 
Good to hear. I made a little strider bike with bamboo last year for a friends kid. Think I may need to make another one with a bamboo fork as a small scale project to get my technique refined. Then on to the big leagues. Been thinking about a cycle truck, less the old Schwinn style and something more inspired by the Omnium, like this: 664km in 24 hours on an Omnium Cargo! | Omnium Cargo. Bamboo 20" fork and all...

Thanks for getting me inspired!
 
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