2012 Lyrik R conversion to Mission Control and DUal Position

Tourendo · Nov 23, 2015

There were lots of threads here a few years a few years ago about this conversion but most were concerning the first generation pre 2010 Lyrik.

My fork is the stock Solo Air Lyrik R fork on a 2012 Trek Slash. Is this a motion control damper?

Other questions are:

1. Do I have to get a new rebound damper assembly. The Lyrik rebound dampers changed sometime around 2010, but does that just apply to the RC2 forks ?

2. Is there much difference between the RC2 with Poplock removed and the RC2 DH dampers. I can get a RC2 for $40 less.

3. Is the Dual Position air spring a straight drop in mod or would I need additional parts ?

Uphill=sad · Nov 24, 2015

The OEM lyrik R - will (should) have a red top cap on the right fork leg, it isn't mission control, there will be no adjustment at all. The mission control damper will have a larger blue dial and a smaller silver dial on top of the blue one.

I did the conversion a few years ago and was very happy with the performance over the R model, I bought a RC2DH mission control damper that included the rebound shaft. I can't quite remember if you have to get the rebound part or whether I did as I went from 160 to 170mm of travel.

If it's an option go the RC2DH without floodgate it was their flagship damper for this era, very nice damper. Poploc is only on the motion control dampers?

Don't know anything about dual air sorry.

Tourendo · Nov 25, 2015

Thanks for the reply.
After a lot more searching , the answer is the rebound damper does have to be replaced.
Whether the DPA is a direct swap for the Solo Air is yet to be determined.

With the 26" Lyrik Charger damper coming out, I'm not sure the Mico DH swap will even be worth doing. My LBS thinks the Charger is by far the best option. Once the cartridge is readily available and its price verified the decision will be easier to make.

Uphill=sad · Nov 30, 2015

Going against the trends here, I preferred MiCo over the pikes charger damper, while it was really good, being a heavier rider, not having a HSC option I found I could get the charger suited to both small hit plushness and nice through a string of bigger hits at the same time, it was one or the other. Where as the MiCo, I could get both pretty nice, not as good as the charger for maximizing either, but better all round.

But with all the positive reviews, putting a charger in is probably the best option, depending on budget.

Tourendo · Nov 30, 2015

I can get the MiCo DH compression damper and DH rebound for about $260 and then would have to spend another $20 for oil. so $280
- or used MiCo ( remove Poploc) + damper + fluid = $250
- or Lyrik Charger cartridge = $365 (includes fluid)

So , I guess the question - is the Charger cartridge worth the extra $85 - $115?

ungod · Dec 1, 2015

Is swapping forks an option? You might be able to find a Pike + sell your Lyrik and end up paying less than what the Charger upgrade would cost. Especially this time of year.

Tourendo · Dec 2, 2015

Getting a Pike and selling the Lyrik, would be double the cost or more of even the most expensive Lyrik conversion option. Especially when a new front wheel would have to be factored into the cost.

ungod · Dec 3, 2015

Really? I picked up my last pike (lightly used) for $450, and bike-discount.de has them new for ~$550. I don't know what your Lyrik is worth but i'd guess you could get at least $300 for it.

Tourendo · Dec 4, 2015

Best deal I can find for a 26 Pike is about $750 CAD shipped . The fork at bike-discount is well over $800 CAD once shipping is factored in, plus I'd still have to buy a front wheel.

My fork is a LYrik R which I'd be lucky to get $250 for, especially this time of year.

If I could find a good condtion Pike for $550 CAD I'd consider it . But, I dont know if it be any better than my Lyrik with a new cartridge.

ungod · Dec 4, 2015

Oh, sorry! You're talking CAD. That makes the conversion prices much more reasonable, i thought you were talking about paying almost $400US for the Charger cartridge (whereas you can pick up a Pike for about $550US).

As for Mico vs. Charger, I couldn't tell you, sorry! My only advice would be to consider how much longer you think you'll have the bike for. Good luck.

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