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I haven't made a post like this in a while, but I think this bike should have one.
I've built and ridden a lot of vintage mtbs, but I've really gravitated towards Otis Guy bikes. I admire him and his bikes for various reasons, so when I initially found this bike in 2007, I was excited to get my hands on an early example of his work. He wasn't all that prolific of a builder and like a lot of other really talented boutique builders, their work doesn't come up too often.
I bought the bike from the second owner. My understanding is that the original owner was a local fireman (hence the color scheme) and at some point it received the treatment that vintage mtbs get all too often....slicks and 'updates'.

Photo from the seller.
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The first thing I did was put some First Flight Bikes Timbuk II's on it.
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While the tire swap was helpful, the cockpit wasn't anything that really made me want to ride the bike. The rear derailleur was wrong for the bike as well.
I took the bike up to Mike Varley at Black Mountain Cycles to correct some of the build and give the bike a tune up. While I was there, he said a customer had brought in a box of old parts he didn't have a use for anymore. In the box was a stem that looks like it'd work on the bike. It was a red fillet brazed Steve Potts Goose Neck stem. The color and fit was so perfect that there was no denying that it should be paired with the Otis. Talk about flat out luck.
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Along with helping me procure some equally rare WTB/CC Sausage Links, converting the Otis Guy to drop bars completely changed the nature of the bike.
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I rode the bike lots. It quickly became one of my favorite (if not all time favorite) bikes.
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Fairfax Fat Tire Festival ride with Otis...and my Otis.
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Even signed by Otis.
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Now this is normally where we'd just leave well enough alone. But I wanted to find a way to make this bike the ultimate vintage mtb (for me). There are a few other OG's out there that are pretty built. Datawhacker's OG had proper roller cams front and rear on his. It got me thinking of how I could make mine better. The opportunity for a fillet brazed Steve Potts Type II presented itself (thanks GOB), so I bought it with the thought of updating the (relative to the rest of the bike) puny unicrown currently on it. Along the way I scored a set of early CC modified Hi-E hubs with early WTB decals (thanks BP). The early CC/WTB roller cams would come off my 84 Potts that had cracked and was not something that could continue to be ridden. An honorable sacrifice.
So the pieces were all there. Easy swap right? Nope.
First I had the steerer on the Type II cut and plugged to match the original.
Then off to paint, making sure to color match the stem and original fork.
It wasn't until I got the fork back that I found out that the crown race for the fork was a 27.0 (as was used on early Potts forks/bikes). The front brakes went on easy enough with the 'oversize' roller cam bosses, but the rear bosses were a smaller and more commonly used U-Brake boss. So now I have the bike it pieces with a hard to find 27.0 600 Arabesque headset crown race and an early WTB RC that has the wrong size bushing to fit on the frame. Too far down the rabbit hole to turn back now.
Without the help of DC/VMTBWS, the bike wouldn't have been finished for who knows how long. Custom bushings were pressed into a pair of the CC/WTB RC's so that they would work correctly on the frame. As luck would have it, we were able to trade crown races as well.
The bike was finally back together but since nothing is ever easy, the rear wheel had a massive amount of play in it.
Fellow VRC'er and master mechanic, Hollister was able to save my ass again with a rebuild of the rear hub. It feels flat out amazing now.

So now Otis Guy #056, is finally back up and running. Better than ever and about as dialed as you can get any vintage mtb.

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So whats next? Another Otis Guy of course. #138 from 1991. This one has led a very hard life...but it's close to a rebirth.
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I love this thread. Really, really love it. Such a great narrative and what a process. People just don't get how difficult it is to accomplish some of our goals. This is also one of the first pictures I remember of you:
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and I think that's the moment that I fell in love with you, you hunk of burning love. :p

Anyhow, I didn't know that's how you got the stem! damn, Mike!

Bravo, Eric!

and oh, by the way, I need the fork back. :p

also, fify:

He wasn't all that prolific of a builder and like a lot of other really talented boutique builders, their work doesn't come up too often without it being a softride.
Finally, it's great that DC helped you out. He's really great that way and we are all lucky to have him here.
 
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I love this thread. Really, really love it. Such a great narrative and what a process. People just don't get how difficult it is to accomplish some of our goals. This is also one of the first pictures I remember of you: and I think that's the moment that I fell in love with you, you hunk of burning love. :p
Anyhow, I didn't know that's how you got the stem! damn, Mike!
Bravo, Eric!
and oh, by the way, I need the fork back. :p
also, fify:
Finally, it's great that DC helped you out. He's really great that way and we are all lucky to have him here.
Haha, aww, thanks GOB!

You want the fork back!? It seriously added a pound to the bike! :p

I was just gonna glaze over the beam bike thing. ;)

It's definitely a labor of love getting it all to work out, but there wasn't a chance I would have pulled it off without the guys who helped.
MV, DC, and HC are three people I'm fortunate to call friends who are so generous with their skill and time.
 
Nice. 1966 ford Ivy Green on the next frame?
nailed it. what a great color! man, an ivy green bike with bright white decals, how classy/cool would that be?

that firetruck-and-white otisguy is plenty rad, too! definitely my kind of bike. hope you ride the crap out of it. gotta be a fun ride! must admit, i think i prefer it with the stock fork, tho.
 
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Fireman's bike is fantastic E....beautiful upgrades.
Any difference in rake between the forks?
I'm sure the bike is much happier now...well done.
Looks like the '91 ended up in good hands, and the new green coat is stunning.
Can't wait to see the build.
Steve
Forks (should) be the same. The curved vs straight makes it look more different than it is.
Hopefully happier! I'm just glad to have it back in rotation.

I'm looking forward to finishing off the 91. The build for it will be pretty hard to beat.

Thing rides like a dream. For real.
Ya, it was fun. I hate the black walls on it, but they help keep the worry down out on the trail.

Who painted the fork? I'm bummed my reds don't match and you have 3 different reds on that bike. bastard!
I'll email ya. Another one of those journeyman types, local, paints out of his garage since forever. 30 years of paint fumes makes him a bit eccentric, but he's a nice guy and very good.

Nice. 1966 ford Ivy Green on the next frame?
So another VRC member here (won't name names :p ) gave it the crappiest, worst power coat paint job ever. It was sold to a guy in AU, then sold back to a guy local to me who I got it from. It has so many dings and dents over it and even a pin hole in the ST.
I took it to my frame guy for assessment. He smoothed out some of the bigger dings, filled the hole and checked for terminal rust (there was none), aligned the frame and re-chased every thread. When it was PC'ed, they didn't bother to remove the cable guide...so underneath was the original color! Hollister and I went up to Maas Bros in Livermore who are familiar with PC'ing bike frames. They do good work for cheap. They were pretty patient with me trying to match the color underneath. I tried to get as close as I could with a little variation. It actually came out lighter than I expected but I really like it. And ya...as it were, very close to the green on the 66 Fastback I had!

nailed it. what a great color! man, an ivy green bike with bright white decals, how classy/cool would that be?
that firetruck-and-white otisguy is plenty rad, too! definitely my kind of bike. hope you ride the crap out of it. gotta be a fun ride! must admit, i think i prefer it with the stock fork, tho.
Ya, I really like the color too. Otis was kind enough to send me a set of decals...but they're not white.

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I intend to ride the hell out of both bikes. Stock fork was fine, but I think the two tone of the Type II really sets off the bike. Original fork is sitting safe with the brakes on it. An easy swap back if I ever decide to do so.
 
Love the scalloped lower head tube "treatment", that's pretty sweet.

Is the down tube multi dimensional, or is it just the pic?

Do like that green a whole lot!

And yes, I'd agree, fine work on the red one, looks much happier than when you first picked it up!

Thanks for sharing, haven't seen you around in a while, good to see you're still busy. :)
 
Dude. I like it. Looks super good with the type II and everything. I need an OG I think.

The 91... should have left that day old guac paint on there for sure. You get what you pay for. haha!

PS I have lots of those RC bushings in the different sizes so if anyone needs some pressed in...
 
There isn't much to add here. Fantastic work on the red-white (love the Type II!) one, nailing it downhill and it gets even better. The green-gold scheme promises another amazing build.

Those bikes couldn't deserve better than being in part of your fleet. Congrats and thanks for sharing, Eric.

Best regards

Moritz
 
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Thanks for the complements guys. Definitely one I'm glad to have done and the other is getting pretty close.

Love the scalloped lower head tube "treatment", that's pretty sweet.
Is the down tube multi dimensional, or is it just the pic?
Do like that green a whole lot!
And yes, I'd agree, fine work on the red one, looks much happier than when you first picked it up!
Thanks for sharing, haven't seen you around in a while, good to see you're still busy. :)
Just the pic. There are two plates on either side of the HT for strength that might be throwing the pic off a bit.

Dude. I like it. Looks super good with the type II and everything. I need an OG I think.
The 91... should have left that day old guac paint on there for sure. You get what you pay for. haha!
PS I have lots of those RC bushings in the different sizes so if anyone needs some pressed in...
Day old guac, ha! It might have been ok if the quality was decent, but as soon as I saw the sprayed over cable guide and the original color underneath...I had to re-do it. Plus the pin hole and all the dings. It's had a rough life.
Thanks for the bushing offer, I appreciate it...but I've got a 'vintagemtbworkshop' for that. :D

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Such a romantic post Rumpfy, I'm shocked. A great looking bike.
I have a heart in there somewhere.

RBI is a full-spec WTB parts service center now.
I'm kinda really stoked for that. Hopefully no more bushing changes in the near future, but I hope to get some good use out of it. :D
 
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