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Both are the same price. The MT-6 would go better with my SRAM XO setup and are Matchmaker compatible. The XTR on the other hand seem to be better brakes and replacement pads are more widely available.

What should I go with?
 
I like the lever shape of the MT brakes more than shimano. The servo-wave in shimano speak, or BAT on magura is...well in my experience, it sounds like a nice idea, but I never use it.

as for parts availability, you can't beat shimano. What parts are you likely to need though? Out of habit, I just get an extra set of pads when I buy brakes, so I never miss a ride because of it.
 
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Thanks for the reply...I'm leaning towards Magura on large part for their Matchmaker compatibility. I was just about to order my 180F/160R setup when I came across the Magura service manual. They recommend in principle that front and rear rotors be the same size and provided a sizing chart of max recommend weight. 100kg for a 160/160 setup and 120kg for a 180/160 with the SL Rotors. I'm 10kg inside the 100kg limit...should I go with a smaller rotor up front for better modulation?
 
Thanks for the reply...I'm leaning towards Magura on large part for their Matchmaker compatibility. I was just about to order my 180F/160R setup when I came across the Magura service manual. They recommend in principle that front and rear rotors be the same size and provided a sizing chart of max recommend weight. 100kg for a 160/160 setup and 120kg for a 180/160 with the SL Rotors. I'm 10kg inside the 100kg limit...should I go with a smaller rotor up front for better modulation?
at 90kg the only reason I would use the 160 front/rear combo would be if I was not intending to do any downhill. Get the 180 for the front at a minimum. I cant see how you would regret it.
 
One vote from here also for the 180/160 setup. I am not doing any DH and I am not near 100kg.. and still I can get front disc quite hot even though I am not living in the Alps.
I am very happy with my MT6s and so far there has been only one downside, which is minor leak issue when temperature is lower than -15C. I haven't been able to spot leak point, but it takes ~20hr of riding and brake system needs bleeding. Luckily MT6 bleeding is brain dead simple and this leaking doesn't occur outside of winter season.
 
MAGURA - NEVER MORE
In September 2014 I received my brand new OPEN 1.1 from Opencycle (great bike). It came with Magura MT6 disc brakes.
After less than 200 km on the new bike, one day, riding slowly, I actuated the rear brake to stop and the brake hose came off at the lever squirting fluid.
Took it to the local bike shop to refit the hose in position and bleed it. After that the brake started to feel sluggish and spongy. I rode it for several weeks and than took it to the mechanic to bleed it again. No improvement; always spongy and the engagement point getting lower and lower. The front brake engagement point started to get also low. At this point I drove to the big city and took the bike to a Magura certified mechanic. After bleeding with no result, he said that the master cylinders were leaking and that this could be result of overtightening the clamp nuts, which I'm 98% sure was not the case.
Carefully examining the master cylinder under good light and with a magnifying glass, it seems to be in perfect condition. Still under good light, actuating the lever, the leakage seems to be coming out of the little weep hole behind the master cylinder, where it mounts to the bars. The mechanic said that there was no way to fix it and that the only solution was to replace the master cylinders at a huge cost. Total disappointment! He also admitted that Magura brakes are very sensitive and often have complications. His personal advice was: switch to Shimano XT or XTR and will never have problems.
A pair of complete Shimano XT disc brakes is cheaper than the repair of the Maguras.
After that, I sent an email to Magura Brazil reporting the whole story and hoping they would strive to make a customer happy and honor the warranty.
A day later they called me to explain why the warranty could not be honored. First, because the local bike shop mechanic was not Magura certified and could have done something wrong when installing the brakes and cutting the hoses. Second, because the levers could've been overtightened.
So, if you ever buy a Magura brake, make sure not to install it by yourself nor by the local bike shop if you don't want to lose the warranty. At least in Brazil, this is how it works.
 
Are you considering the MT6 Next? I wouldn't buy old stock MT6 (came out late 2011, through mid 2014).

I use MT4 brakes - yep the old ones - and have no issues. I have two sets of wheels, one for AM with Storm rotors and the other for XC with Storm SL. The Storm SL make some noise even if setup perfectly, but the Storm are quieter. Not sure it's worth the weight savings for the noise, to be honest.

The Magura lever works great if you set it up to hook your first finger on the very end. This is easy to do with reach adjust.
 
Isn't it an important enough warning?
You call it a warning, I call it a story....your story, and something just doesn't add up. There are thousands of satisfied Magura owners out there. Personally, I've been using them for a decade now, doing all my own installations and maintenance simply by following the instructions that come with them. I don't rely on the opinions of others, nor their "certified" skills, or lack thereof, to keep my brakes operating.
 
You call it a warning, I call it a story....your story, and something just doesn't add up. There are thousands of satisfied Magura owners out there. Personally, I've been using them for a decade now, doing all my own installations and maintenance simply by following the instructions that come with them. I don't rely on the opinions of others, nor their "certified" skills, or lack thereof, to keep my brakes operating.
Maybe we should call it a report and whether it adds useful information to others, it's up to them to judge.
Of course, there are thousands of happy customers for every product in the market and certainly a few hundred unhappy. That's why manufacturers give a warranty. I'm glad to know you've been lucky to be included in the first group. Unfortunately I was not.
Congratulations on your mechanical skills. But if you use them on Magura brakes in Brazil, you lose your warranty.
 
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