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I went there during lunch today to look at a 575.
Great people. Really enthusiastic and knowledgeable. NO attitude
Didn't order anything right now as I'm going on vacation soon and may buy down there,
but still, great shop. Somewhat of a sleeper?
 
Reed

mtnbkrdr98 said:
I went there during lunch today to look at a 575.
Great people. Really enthusiastic and knowledgeable. NO attitude
Didn't order anything right now as I'm going on vacation soon and may buy down there,
but still, great shop. Somewhat of a sleeper?
I've only had good experiences with Bill and all the guys at Reed. The lack of "mechanic 'tude" (downtown George's, with the exception of Jason) and/or shop owner weirdness (Shawn Grossman, anyone?) is refreshing. The downside, for a NE Boise guy like me, is the location. At least a 30 minute drive from my Meridian office, and close to a 40 minute drive from my house.
 
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hey G

Earthpig said:
I've only had good experiences with Bill and all the guys at Reed. The lack of "mechanic 'tude" (downtown George's, with the exception of Jason) and/or shop owner weirdness (Shawn Grossman, anyone?) is refreshing. The downside, for a NE Boise guy like me, is the location. At least a 30 minute drive from my Meridian office, and close to a 40 minute drive from my house.
How was your evening ride last night? That SS is soooo light!
I went up 8th and it was fun coming back down. Going again tonight up to the treeline
I need the straightforward pedaling, to strart gettin fit again.

I barely touched those pedals though and they bit me. nasty things without knee/shin guards!
 
Great shop

mtnbkrdr98 said:
I went there during lunch today to look at a 575.
Great people. Really enthusiastic and knowledgeable. NO attitude
Didn't order anything right now as I'm going on vacation soon and may buy down there,
but still, great shop. Somewhat of a sleeper?
It's the only place I take my bike anymore, there and to Brian.
The guys at Reed's are always up for a chat and they are REALLY enthusiatic about their work. Ian, Ryan, and Nick are all good and not concerned about making a sale or their bottom line. They seem to really care and are passionate about bikes. Kinda like World Cycle used to be back when they opened.

The other shops have a bunch of "'tude" laden clowns running around not seeming to really know what's going on.

As a matter of fact my wife demo'ed the 575 and loved it, but disliked the Raleigh they put her on. Went to George's to look at some other bikes and a very unknowledgable service guy ticked her off when she started asking some more complex questions and he didn't seem to know the answer. Went to Ken's too and demo'ed a Expert from Aaron.
 
Well crap the server ate my original post :rolleyes:.

I just wanted to say that I'm a big fan of Reed's as well. When I first started looking at Yeti's, they were the only shop in town (heck...I think all of Idaho) that carried Yeti's. My first visit to the shop I was helped by Bill. What a great guy. Very down to earth and friendly and zero bike snob on his part. Same thing with the other fella in the shop (younger guy whose name escapes my mind...he's in some recent pix on the SpudHucksters site though).

I haven't taken my Yeti into 'em yet. However I shoulda had them assemble my bike instead of us doing in shop (there were some minor issues post-assembly). But from now on I will take the Yeti into 'em for work.

The only downside is that they are located in Eagle and it's not the most convenient shop to get to (I work in downtown, but live in the Republican stronghold of Canyon County).

Nick
 
mtnbkrdr98 said:
I went there during lunch today to look at a 575.
If you fit on a medium 575, you are more than welcome to take mine out for a spin instead of just riding around the city streets of Eagle. I haven't dropped in a stiffer spring yet into the Vanilla and I've got 230 psi in the RP3.

You considered a Ventana or Titus or Turner or Ellsworth?
 
Someone post some photos of Bill hitting those jumps his kids are. ;):p

Glad to see they are getting some much deserved recognition, great people, been in the biz a long time now.

Try calling Bill "speedo" some time and see if he responds.

And tell him Eric, from way back in the team sic days, says hi.
 
I agree about the downtown George's...

They seem like they always have a "Tude" thing going on. But not all George's are like that. I have never had any problems with the State street store. Ben and Riley are always helpful. But Bob's has got to be the worst in my opinion. They act like only they understand mtbing and that everyone else is just imitating. I actually waited in there once for a half hour before someone came over to me. And that's probably cuz I looked like I was headed for the door. My two fav shops are State Street George's and IMT. I think the problem stems from one thing, and this is just my opinion, but that the mechanics at my two fav shops are mtbers, not roadies like downtown Gs. I could be completely wrong, but that's the way it seems.
 
mtnbkrdr98 said:
I went there during lunch today to look at a 575.
Great people. Really enthusiastic and knowledgeable. NO attitude
Didn't order anything right now as I'm going on vacation soon and may buy down there,
but still, great shop. Somewhat of a sleeper?
They're definitely nice guys but my few experiences ordering stuff through them we're extremely frustrating. Stuff like not bothering to contact me when they were unable locate something even though I put down a deposit. I have very little patience for such things so that was kind of it for me but, to be fair, my experience is limited enough that I just may have been unlucky.

Of all the local shops, the most reliable in my experience is mail order, by far. Reed and the State St. George's both have a good bunch of guys working for them though.
 
do all of you guys actually depend on a shop this much?

the only thing i need a shop is for a fork maintenance....maybe to press a headset...

guess if you don't have any of the tools you'd need a shope for cassettes, bb, etc...

but, buy a cheap tool set and do it yourself...

between the tudes, lack of in stock stuff, etc...shops are worthless...

this reed's sounds ok, because they have more custom stuff it sounds...but the big bike shop store never gets my business.

but, i don't have a techy bike, so maybe that's why i don't need a mechanic...but, if i did have a problem that i couldn't figure out...i'd just use zebdi
;)
 
Unleash the Wolves

garnetspur said:
do all of you guys actually depend on a shop this much?

the only thing i need a shop is for a fork maintenance....maybe to press a headset...

guess if you don't have any of the tools you'd need a shope for cassettes, bb, etc...

but, buy a cheap tool set and do it yourself...

between the tudes, lack of in stock stuff, etc...shops are worthless...

this reed's sounds ok, because they have more custom stuff it sounds...but the big bike shop store never gets my business.

but, i don't have a techy bike, so maybe that's why i don't need a mechanic...but, if i did have a problem that i couldn't figure out...i'd just use zebdi
;)
WOW!! Worthless? C'mon we're not that bad. Having spent many more years as a consumer than an employee of the bike industry I understand where your coming from. Shops simply can't stock everything you need RIGHT now. And if they do, George's, they should charge full retail for it. Law of supply and demand. You want it right now, so you should pay the right now price for it. They have to pay to keep it in inventory so your going to pay at the register. Also, not everyone has the time or desire to work on their bikes and want to have it taken care of properly. Give your GOOD mechanics in town the benefit of having worked on several bikes per day of many different varieties and makes. They are better at it than you are just from repetition. Just like your probably very proficient at your chosed occupation. There is never an excuse for TUDE. All of us a Reed Cycle keep this in mind everytime we walk through the door, that's why you don't get any from us.

From a sales point of view, your not going to get a chance to have me tell my point of view about a particular part or bike over the internet. There is still nothing like having a person to person conversation to really understand the point someone is trying to make. People come in and ask for my experience and recommendations. I don't charge them for it, but they are happy to have someone help them make up their minds about which parts are worth spending their hard earned dollars on based upon my exposure to much more bike related topics than you have. Once again, its all about repetition. I see both sides to the BIKE SHOP issue, maybe you should give it a shot as well or come on down to Reeds so we can talk shop and maybe you won't come away so jaded by the shop folks.

Ian
www.spudhucksters.com
 
Reeds Wrenches Rocks (Say that 10 times fast)

Ivan the Terrible said:
I see both sides to the BIKE SHOP issue, maybe you should give it a shot as well or come on down to Reeds so we can talk shop and maybe you won't come away so jaded by the shop folks.
Ian
Damn - Great Post!

Can I make an appointment?
 
Ivan the Terrible said:
WOW!! Worthless? C'mon we're not that bad. Having spent many more years as a consumer than an employee of the bike industry I understand where your coming from. Shops simply can't stock everything you need RIGHT now. And if they do, George's, they should charge full retail for it. Law of supply and demand. You want it right now, so you should pay the right now price for it. They have to pay to keep it in inventory so your going to pay at the register. Also, not everyone has the time or desire to work on their bikes and want to have it taken care of properly. Give your GOOD mechanics in town the benefit of having worked on several bikes per day of many different varieties and makes. They are better at it than you are just from repetition. Just like your probably very proficient at your chosed occupation. There is never an excuse for TUDE. All of us a Reed Cycle keep this in mind everytime we walk through the door, that's why you don't get any from us.

From a sales point of view, your not going to get a chance to have me tell my point of view about a particular part or bike over the internet. There is still nothing like having a person to person conversation to really understand the point someone is trying to make. People come in and ask for my experience and recommendations. I don't charge them for it, but they are happy to have someone help them make up their minds about which parts are worth spending their hard earned dollars on based upon my exposure to much more bike related topics than you have. Once again, its all about repetition. I see both sides to the BIKE SHOP issue, maybe you should give it a shot as well or come on down to Reeds so we can talk shop and maybe you won't come away so jaded by the shop folks.

Ian
www.spudhucksters.com
ian, your points are well taken. it sounds like reeds is a cool shop. i don't think shops are worthless...just not necessary for me...but, i'm glad they are there for the handful of times i go in...if for nothing else..just to bs and look around...i buy things from shops...but i don't depend on them in the least bit...i'm a northender so i'm afraid of places like eagle..

i ride a simple geared hardtail...nothing fancy. i replace cables/housing...brake pads....and a lube my chain....my drivetrain is super dirty..i don't take care of my stuff at all, but it runs fine...my cassette and chain are up in age/use so they'll need replacing soon..nothing i cannot do myself..

for me, the bottom line is monetary....and having a part at my front door in 2 days...the shop can't do that..or they won't do that for the reasons you mentioned...make "business" sense to me...

as far as reviews/recommendations go...there are mags and mtbr to get opinions on things..

the bike shop is a good service for the beginner rec type rider...i'm a rec rider myself...i'm not good or anything...but you know the rider i'm talking about..

the shop has to sell as many treks and specialized as they can to make money...and charge tons of money to adjust a rear deraileaur and put some lube on the chain...tweak the brakes a little...

with all my trash talking about shops...i do go by imt occasionally (convenience) and i'll buy a tire or some miscellaneous things...gloves/clothes....i did buy some parts from imt on the latest bike i built up for my wife...

i don't know....when i first started riding, i'd let the "cool" shop in my old town work on my bike..but after a while...i just started wrenching on them and discovered it was pretty easy...i know i can't wrench as good as the bike shop guy...but, i can get it done with a few beers and cussin'.....and a phone call or two to those in the know

ps...enjoy y'alls site
 
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Disagree with some points

garnetspur said:
as far as reviews/recommendations go...there are mags and mtbr to get opinions on things..

the bike shop is a good service for the beginner rec type rider...i'm a rec rider myself...i'm not good or anything...but you know the rider i'm talking about..
I wouldn't call myself a beginner. Except going down Hulls last night on my Kona dirtjumper - just dont think that bike is designed for trail riding. But maybe was just me and didn't have my Mojo. Zebdi???

But seriously, I agree with Ian. Plus I don't have the time or money ot invest int a stand and tools right now and end up messing stuff up, have to bring it to the shop anyway to fix my screwups! I'll learn later but even so, the shop is always valuable in the community.

The other thing is, I decided mtbr can be useful for reviews if you sort the valid ones, but the magazines, like mbaction - i really think that they are biased towards their advertisers.
And Richard Cunningham directly contradicts himself, to an extent in his response to "Ask Richard" online vs. what the MBaction review of a certain bike said
 
mtnbkrdr98 said:
I wouldn't call myself a beginner. Except going down Hulls last night on my Kona dirtjumper - just dont think that bike is designed for trail riding. But maybe was just me and didn't have my Mojo. Zebdi???
Riding your Kona will take a little getting used to because of the small size, but once you've got it..... I road my 15" Kona Stuff for almost a year because I sold my FS bike and hadn't got my Heckler yet. It was a bit cramped riding uphill. I even got laughed at for it. Screw them. Riding downhill on the other hand was quite fun. Especially on a twisty singletrack. Go for a couple more rides and you'll start to get the feel for it. It'll make you a better rider. Riding a FS bike all the time will make you sloppy. Just be careful on the steep technical stuff. You don't have to move your weight very far toward the front before you are stepping over the bars.
 
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Can do

garnetspur said:
fair enough...to each his own opinion...and preferences...

but i think that anyone who has ridden for at least 3-5 years should at least be able to adjust his deralleaurs and brakes at a minimum...all you need for that is some allens/screwdrivers...it's basically trailside maintenance.that i think is just good to know just to be responsible...that and being able to fix a broken chain, and change out a tube...those four things are similar to knowing how to change a tire on your car if you get a flat...

i have a question for people on here that actually take care of their stuff...what do you use as a cleaner on your bike? somebody was telling me to get some of the simple green stuff and a good brush....i want to start keeping my bike cleaner....it's really embarrassing..
basic barrel adj on the ders, tube changes, adjust/tighten headset, break/fix chain

just not more advanced stuff but when I get time will learn, since I do plan to ride for as long as I possibly can, hopefully till I'm like 80!

yep, simple green is cheap and very good. Use it in a chain cleaning tool and works good, just make sure you dry the chain real well, then relube with good stuff
 
mtnbkrdr98 said:
I wouldn't call myself a beginner. Except going down Hulls last night on my Kona dirtjumper - just dont think that bike is designed for trail riding. But maybe was just me and didn't have my Mojo. Zebdi???

But seriously, I agree with Ian. Plus I don't have the time or money ot invest int a stand and tools right now and end up messing stuff up, have to bring it to the shop anyway to fix my screwups! I'll learn later but even so, the shop is always valuable in the community.

The other thing is, I decided mtbr can be useful for reviews if you sort the valid ones, but the magazines, like mbaction - i really think that they are biased towards their advertisers.
And Richard Cunningham directly contradicts himself, to an extent in his response to "Ask Richard" online vs. what the MBaction review of a certain bike said
fair enough...to each his own opinion...and preferences...

but i think that anyone who has ridden for at least 3-5 years should at least be able to adjust his deralleaurs and brakes at a minimum...all you need for that is some allens/screwdrivers...it's basically trailside maintenance.that i think is just good to know just to be responsible...that and being able to fix a broken chain, and change out a tube...those four things are similar to knowing how to change a tire on your car if you get a flat...

i have a question for people on here that actually take care of their stuff...what do you use as a cleaner on your bike? somebody was telling me to get some of the simple green stuff and a good brush....i want to start keeping my bike cleaner....it's really embarrassing..
 
You guys are alright...

Ivan the Terrible said:
WOW!!

From a sales point of view, your not going to get a chance to have me tell my point of view about a particular part or bike over the internet. There is still nothing like having a person to person conversation to really understand the point someone is trying to make. People come in and ask for my experience and recommendations. I don't charge them for it, but they are happy to have someone help them make up their minds about which parts are worth spending their hard earned dollars on based upon my exposure to much more bike related topics than you have. Once again, its all about repetition. I see both sides to the BIKE SHOP issue, maybe you should give it a shot as well or come on down to Reeds so we can talk shop and maybe you won't come away so jaded by the shop folks.

Ian
www.spudhucksters.com
I buy a lot of stuff off the internet, but I use shops, too. Especially Dirt Dart Mobile Bike Shop. But I loved Jake at Moo's, Pete later at IMT, Ken (is there a nicer guy?) and the guys at Ken's, Brian when I need a wheel, or at least a long drive into the country, etc, etc.

A job that would take me an hour or two, and leave me frustrated with mediocre work and skinned up knuckles, you guys can do in 15 minutes, and usually do it right. That's worth the money for me.

Like last night, the Dirt Dart came over to the house, had some little thing to do on 3 of my bikes, then charged me $20. So I gave him $25, and handed him an icey Alaskan and we sat on the grass enjoying the end of the day.

You can't go there with the click of a mouse, or get that from ebay or supergo, now matter how hard you try.

CDB
 
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