Title says it all. This is off the back of another thread I started where I was looking for quite high engagement hub. When someone brought these up, they stood out as the perfect choice. Infinite Engagement, completely silent, and no drag. Am just curious why I never hear about them, but I always hear about the Kings, when these seem to outdo the Kings in these aspects. Do the Kings have anything going for them by comparison? Is there a reason these hubs are never mentioned? Any weaknesses?
King Hubs vs Oynx Racing Hubs
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Title says it all. This is off the back of another thread I started where I was looking for quite high engagement hub. When someone brought these up, they stood out as the perfect choice. Infinite Engagement, completely silent, and no drag. Am just curious why I never hear about them, but I always hear about the Kings, when these seem to outdo the Kings in these aspects. Do the Kings have anything going for them by comparison? Is there a reason these hubs are never mentioned? Any weaknesses?
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Onyx seem to be BMX hubs. Maybe that's why.
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They've got MTB hubs as well with the same characteristics and practically no drag.
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Got a link? I could only find the pro and ultra bmx.
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Site is difficult to navigate and am messaging from my iPhone unfortunately. The below should help though
IB14: Onyx Racing Products Hubs Offer Instant, Infinite Engagement w/ Low Drag for Road, BMX, MTB & More
IB14: Onyx Racing Products Hubs Offer Instant, Infinite Engagement w/ Low Drag for Road, BMX, MTB & More
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Would like to see the guts outside of the hubshell. If they prove to be durable, they should catch on. Like 92 says, King has been around a long time and their proprietary designs has proven to be incredibly durable. Heck, I have a set of Kings that was built in '05 w/ all the original parts. If you keep them serviced, they'll last forever.
Onyx hubs could be the best on the planet, ceramic bearings are on all the hubs. Very low drag and spin forever, instant engagement and totally quiet. Each is made to customer request with custom ano, or paint. I will getting a pair soon for my new Pivot 429sl 29er. The company spent over 1 million to develop the drive system. Now making center lock for rotors. I think the rear hub is 318g, not as light as DT Swiss but still not bad!!
They are in the BMX world, now transitioning into MTB and road. The word will spread.
They are in the BMX world, now transitioning into MTB and road. The word will spread.
Q: Please explain why ceramic bearings are needed in a bicycling application?
A: There is no reason. But it sure does sound cool.
The had a shop weigh a rear Onyx mtb 12x142 with 10 speed driver, the weight was way higher at 490g that's a lot of weight. They are also a hybrid ceramic bearing, steel races and ceramic balls. Chris King at 385g sounds light. Stealth is another hub that is totally silent with infinite engagement but they also are about the same weight as Onyx. The lowest drag out of the box is Onyx. That was confirmed from a shop that sells all three.
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Still like Profile Elite hubs better, lighter and stronger with 6 pawl.
Early adopters typically get to do the R&D for products like these in today's world. I prefer riding and smashing on stuff when I want to instead of waiting for the UPS truck with a 
on. Chris King are A.Light B. Bombproof C. Aurally Pleasing D. Pretty damned light and E. Beautiful. Just sayin'.
on. Chris King are A.Light B. Bombproof C. Aurally Pleasing D. Pretty damned light and E. Beautiful. Just sayin'.I called Onyx on Friday to have a chat about fat bike hubs. It appears to be a great application for fat bikes, as the design appears to be well sealed from the elements, and the only grease required may be to the bearings.
The grease in the drive mech was quoted to be "for life, unless the hub is submerged for long periods of time". I like the sound of that, and it might be worth the extra cash not not have to worry. "We use lots of O-rings to help seal everything up tight, and protect from the elements", which sounds good to me!
But early adopters usually pay to play, and for a brand new technology, $474 is a little steep for me right now. I just wish CK made a 197TA rear hub.
The grease in the drive mech was quoted to be "for life, unless the hub is submerged for long periods of time". I like the sound of that, and it might be worth the extra cash not not have to worry. "We use lots of O-rings to help seal everything up tight, and protect from the elements", which sounds good to me!
But early adopters usually pay to play, and for a brand new technology, $474 is a little steep for me right now. I just wish CK made a 197TA rear hub.
Found out some more info from one of Onyx engineers about Front and rear MTB hubs.
Rear 12x142-center lock with XD driver 468.5g. Front 15mm x100 centerlock 214.7.
Definitely not light, 5 year warr. with trade up program included. He also said there's a reason for the weight. Over built hub will last many many years, steel Sprag drive and very low drag set the apart from all other hubs. Once you feel the hub in your hand than on the bike the intestment shows it worth.
They also make all Lefty hubs, Fat hubs and road hubs. The yellow color in picts is power coat. That's the color I'm going with !! I know the info come from Onyx, the weight is the hardest thing I'm struggling with.
Rear 12x142-center lock with XD driver 468.5g. Front 15mm x100 centerlock 214.7.
Definitely not light, 5 year warr. with trade up program included. He also said there's a reason for the weight. Over built hub will last many many years, steel Sprag drive and very low drag set the apart from all other hubs. Once you feel the hub in your hand than on the bike the intestment shows it worth.
They also make all Lefty hubs, Fat hubs and road hubs. The yellow color in picts is power coat. That's the color I'm going with !! I know the info come from Onyx, the weight is the hardest thing I'm struggling with.
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Project 321 was the I was going to go with, I have now I9 Torch, Dt Swiss 240, Hadley hubs and Project 321 lefty hub. 240 the lightest of bunch. I recommend checking Project 321 hub over the I9 hub, same drive system only with better bearing design and endcaps. The anodizing on Project 321 is also much better than I9 in my opinion!!
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Cool! Let us know how you like them and some picts. I'm still waiting for my new Pivot 429sl frame, I'm getting the green graphics on the bike so waiting to get the frame for proper color combo with hubs. I think the antifreeze color hub would be cool !!
What rims are you going with?
What rims are you going with?
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I am lucky enough to have quite a few choices laying around. Either WTB KOMs, Atomik Carbon Mod Hooked, WTB i25 or Velocity Blunt SS. Have not decided yet.
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