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#41 ·
I am interested in the answer to this one as well.

I have a 2014 RIP9 alloy coming as a warranty replacement for a 2012 RIP9. The fox worked well enough, but I'm really interested in knowing what to expect when comparing the Fox and the RS Monarch. If it works so well, why didn't it get spec'd for the RDO as well?

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How do you like the rear shock on the new RIP compared to the old one with the Fox shocks? I have read that some think it is not as plush, others think it's ok. If I get a RIP, I want PLUSH!!
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#44 ·
Jisch said:
I moved from a 2010 RIP9 to a RIP9 alloy, I'm still messing around with the rear shock, but in general I do not feel its a plush as the Fox on the 2010.
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Thanks. Do you know if a trip to PUSH could solve that, or if it is just the nature of the Monarch shocks? I have no experience with them at all. I have had several RP23's/CTD's and have liked them all. I would think that Niner would spec a nice cushy shock for this thing, but maybe you have to get the RDO for that.
 
#45 ·
FOX Talas on the RIP9 RDO

Great reviews on the bikes and forks. I ordered a RIP9RDO with the 2014 Fox Talas 110/140, XX1, XTR, Brakes, KS Lev dropper, AC all mtn wheels, until AC wide lightnings come in. However still like to climb too, so question...I only rode a RIP9 Alloy 2x10 with RS Revelation 130 and liked it but wanted a little more slack geometry with 140 up front, so not sure what to expect on the RDO with the Talas with extra .5 lbs and on climbs? Should I change up for the standard rally blue RS Rev, RS Pike or try out Talas and hope the weight increase on manuals and climbs wont be too noticeable? I like the 110mm setting for long climbs but kind of wanted to set it and forget it. I didn't ride the RDO9 but pulled the trigger anyway. Any input is great as a fork change later may cost more.
 
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I purchased the new Rip Alloy and upgraded to the Pike, 140mm 46mm offset (no white lettering on the stanchion btw). Did my first rides this weekend. I'm about 185 w/ my pack. I set the Pike at 85psi for the first 10 miles, then down to 80psi for the next 8. The bike felt great, the Pike was very nice but the Monarch was more plush than the Pike. If I'm remember right, I set the Monarch for 20%ish sag. It was very soft on the small stuff.

I've been riding a HT 29er for the past 3 years so my reference is stiff. To me, I would not want the ride any more plush. Early on in the first ride, I lost momentum, thinking 'I'll drive around this stuff like on my HT'.... well the suspension would load then when I lost forward movement, it would unload, forcing me to dap. After two daps, I stopped slowing down, I just "pedal damn it"... wouldn't you know it, the bike just went. From there I cleared everything at Sals except two more daps in the bolder field (didn’t want to kill the new bike).

So... I don't know how the RP23 would feel, but the Monarch on Trial with 20% sag was extremely soft on small bumps and medium rock gardens. The rear w/ a Monarch at 20%ish sag on trial mode was softer than the 140mm Pike @ 80psi. I can't imagine anything feeling softer.
 
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I have been riding a HT 29er from Motobecane w/ a 100mm Reba fork. I test road a Giant Trance X 29er w/ a Fox Float 120mm fork. The Giant front end was light on climbs. I really had to focus to keep it down. I just built the 2013/2014 RIP 9 Alloy with a 140mm Pike. While I still had to shift my weight forward, I had much less issue keeping the front wheel on the trail than the Trance.
 
#48 ·
Highlander944 said:
I have been riding a HT 29er from Motobecane w/ a 100mm Reba fork. I test road a Giant Trance X 29er w/ a Fox Float 120mm fork. The Giant front end was light on climbs. I really had to focus to keep it down. I just built the 2013/2014 RIP 9 Alloy with a 140mm Pike. While I still had to shift my weight forward, I had much less issue keeping the front wheel on the trail than the Trance.
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Good to know Highlander944. I just traded my 2013 Giant Trance x29 w/ Fox 120mm up front, for the RIP9RDO with the Talas, so I should fell pretty good on short climbs in 140mm if I don't switch to 110mm setting. Was concerned about the weight over Revelation 130 and Pike 140, but will just have to ride later this week on delivery and see...
 
#49 ·
ksk said:
Great reviews on the bikes and forks. I ordered a RIP9RDO with the 2014 Fox Talas 110/140, XX1, XTR, Brakes, KS Lev dropper, AC all mtn wheels, until AC wide lightnings come in. However still like to climb too, so question...I only rode a RIP9 Alloy 2x10 with RS Revelation 130 and liked it but wanted a little more slack geometry with 140 up front, so not sure what to expect on the RDO with the Talas with extra .5 lbs and on climbs? Should I change up for the standard rally blue RS Rev, RS Pike or try out Talas and hope the weight increase on manuals and climbs wont be too noticeable? I like the 110mm setting for long climbs but kind of wanted to set it and forget it. I didn't ride the RDO9 but pulled the trigger anyway. Any input is great as a fork change later may cost more.
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If you can swap out to the Pike, Do it.

The Pike suits the Rip9 RDO so well.

The travel adjust forks just don't seem to work as well as the single travel.

Most that have ridden the Fox 34 & Pike say that the pike is better, Even as much as saying it is a game changer.

I climb some very steep stuff on my Rip9 RDO & don't feel I wish I was running a travel adjust fork.

I also had a 140mm Revelation RCT3 fork on my bike when I built it & it was nice but the Pike just soaks up everything & is just so stiff & smooth.
 
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muzzanic said:
If you can swap out to the Pike, Do it.

The Pike suits the Rip9 RDO so well.

The travel adjust forks just don't seem to work as well as the single travel.

Most that have ridden the Fox 34 & Pike say that the pike is better, Even as much as saying it is a game changer.

I climb some very steep stuff on my Rip9 RDO & don't feel I wish I was running a travel adjust fork.

I also had a 140mm Revelation RCT3 fork on my bike when I built it & it was nice but the Pike just soaks up everything & is just so stiff & smooth.
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Thanks for the input muzzanic, and have also heard a lot of great reports on the Pike 140, however I couldn't swap the fork now w/o a long wait and hassle so will ride with the 2014 Talas for now. Although many web reports are praising the new 2014 Talas over the 2013, so let's hope it translates on the trail. FOX Hits Back For 2014 - Pinkbike
 
#51 ·
ksk said:
Thanks for the input muzzanic, and have also heard a lot of great reports on the Pike 140, however I couldn't swap the fork now w/o a long wait and hassle so will ride with the 2014 Talas for now. Although many web reports are praising the new 2014 Talas over the 2013, so let's hope it translates on the trail. FOX Hits Back For 2014 - Pinkbike
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I hope you like your new ride, The New Rip9's are a big step forward from the old 1 & I liked the old one.

I have not ridden a new 2014 Fox Talas yet, but hope it is a big step up from the 2013.

I don't like reviews like that 1 were they only say things like it is better than the last one, Then saying that the last 1 was bad.

There are a lot of the Fox's out there & many people happy with them.

Make sure you write a review once you have ridden your new bike for a couple of weeks.

Have fun & I hope you get lots of good weather for riding.
 
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My new 2013 RIP 9

Thank you all for your help. I picked up a new RIP 9 w/ the Pike.

I'm having a little trouble getting the cable length's just right, any pointers there? How far do you let the bars wrap around before the cable's pull?

Here it is:
 
#55 ·
Highlander944 said:
Thank you all for your help. I picked up a new RIP 9 w/ the Pike.

I'm having a little trouble getting the cable length's just right, any pointers there? How far do you let the bars wrap around before the cable's pull?

Here it is:
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Seriously bad-ass! I am on the verge of ordering the rip9 with the three star build. Is there any economical way to upgrade the fork, or are you pretty much stuck with craigslisting the revelation and buying the pike outright?

Andy
 
#57 ·
Im currently looking at the RIP9 RDO and alloy. curious if anyone has official weight difference b/t the two? I've found a good deal on an RDO frame, but not sure what how much weight savings I'll be paying for by upgrading. Large frame for both, I believe I found one post mentioning 295 grams savings on the RDO in a M frame.

anyone have official frame weights of each?
 
#58 ·
I have both in size lge.

it is about 300 grams.

The RDO also has shorter CS & is stiffer.

Tin_Cup said:
Im currently looking at the RIP9 RDO and alloy. curious if anyone has official weight difference b/t the two? I've found a good deal on an RDO frame, but not sure what how much weight savings I'll be paying for by upgrading. Large frame for both, I believe I found one post mentioning 295 grams savings on the RDO in a M frame.

anyone have official frame weights of each?
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#59 ·
just pulled the trigger on the alloy 2014 RIP9 w/ revelation up front. might try to upgrade next year to Pike if I can find a chance to demo one, but super stoked for the new rip9 to come in! I demo'd the RDO, I'm hoping the alloy will put as big a smile on my face, from all the posts here, I'm guessing it will.
 
#60 ·
I'm sure you will be very happy, I have both the Rip9 RDO & the Alloy & love them both.

Although with the same build spec I would always choose the Rip9 RDO, On the same Dollar build the Alloy would be a better bike IMO.

Tin_Cup said:
just pulled the trigger on the alloy 2014 RIP9 w/ revelation up front. might try to upgrade next year to Pike if I can find a chance to demo one, but super stoked for the new rip9 to come in! I demo'd the RDO, I'm hoping the alloy will put as big a smile on my face, from all the posts here, I'm guessing it will.
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