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It tastes a bit like olive oil with a clean after taste ;)
No doubt genuine Shimano mineral oil has the attributes of the finest Greek Olive Oil. Absent is the usual bitterness found amongst the DOT brake fluids. I always salivate at the thought of sipping a freshly opened Shimano brand mineral oil and take in the pungency and fruitiness that are all present and well-balanced in not only the very best olive oils, but Shimano mineral oil too. And yes, you noticed that elusively clean after taste that lingers on the palette...Mmmmm....Bon Appetite!
 
True enough, but I have been using plain mineral ATF in my Deores for over 10 years now with no rebleeds, lockups or leaks.
 
Different strokes I guess... it could cost $100 for for the fluid and I still wouldn't roll the dice on an off brand for something as important as brakes. I guess at that point I'd just get new calipers/levers every time they needed a bleed but you know what I mean.
 
Would I spend good money on Shimano brand oil for my brakes? Yes, because it's designed for what it's used for. Right tool for the job. Stopping power shouldn't be where you skimp.

As a side note, I'm not sure about Shimano's mineral oil, maybe it's a synthetic or has special additives, but general mineral oil isn't all that special. It's just a by-product of the distillation of crude oil to make gasoline. Also, commonly known as baby oil (mineral oil with fufu flower scent) and standard mineral oil is available at any drug store for pretty cheap. It's just a non-compressible fluid. In reality, any fluid will work, even water. The only real reason brake fluid is used in cars is because of the reduced expansion, scortching, and bubbling when cooled/heated to extremes and it doesn't gel up when cold . Will bike brakes heat up as much as car brakes? Not under normal use, and probably the reason mineral oil works fine.
 
Shimano's mineral oil and all other mineral oils used in various hydraulic systems are very different from the mineral oil found in drug stores. Hydraulic system mineral oil has various additives such as anti-oxidants, viscosity modifiers, and pH buffers. This keeps the fluid performing well over time in a wide range of conditions. BTW, Shimano mineral oil has a higher boiling point than DOT fluid. Going by the boiling point it's probably a MIL-PRF-83282 hydraulic fluid or something fairly similar.

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Thanks for all the series answers it was no joke I was seriese like it say I bought oil in ebay because shiping to my country is expensive. I need it to short the rear brake cable
I see it complicate and I don't want to risk the brakes.
thanks again
ofir
 
Shimano's mineral oil and all other mineral oils used in various hydraulic systems are very different from the mineral oil found in drug stores.
Also the name-brand oil likely has better specifications on impurities and a tighter QC process more weighted towards mechanical performance.
 
I agree buy the right stuff, don't worry about 15 bucks for good oil, only thing I hate about mineral oil brakes is that they can freeze up in the winter time, I put dot brakes on my bikes that are gong to see cold weather riding. I do use Shimano brakes on one of my bikes but I prefer Hope brakes and they use Dot 5 brake fluid.
 
I would wager that bike brakes sometimes get hotter than most car brakes. While I know that car rotors are cast iron and not stainless steel, I've seen a fair number of bike rotors that have the colored oxidation that you get at very high temps. My guess is that bicycle brake systems have higher specific power (watts per kilogram) than car systems, because weight is more of a concern on a bike. Higher specific power means higher temperatures.

If you're wondering why cars all use glycol DOT fluid and not mineral oil, it is *because* of the hydrophilic nature of glycol. Since cars use steel brake circuit components, any water that gets into a glycol system is diffused through the entire amount of fluid and doesn't cause corrosion. Any water that gets into a mineral oil system will just pool in one place, which is very bad. It will cause corrosion much more easily. Also, the more stable viscosity of DOT fluid (with a change in temperature) is important for ABS and such. Changing viscosity is less of a concern in such a simple brake circuit as a bicycle disc brake.
 
Shimano's mineral oil and all other mineral oils used in various hydraulic systems are very different from the mineral oil found in drug stores. Hydraulic system mineral oil has various additives such as anti-oxidants, viscosity modifiers, and pH buffers. This keeps the fluid performing well over time in a wide range of conditions. BTW, Shimano mineral oil has a higher boiling point than DOT fluid. Going by the boiling point it's probably a MIL-PRF-83282 hydraulic fluid or something fairly similar.

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Not that you or that image is wrong but I've always heard it the other way around. Another reason I'm glad I have Shimano (if the image is right).
 
Going by the boiling point it's probably a MIL-PRF-83282 hydraulic fluid or something fairly similar.
Shimano brake fluid is a mineral based fluid not a synthetic. MIL-PRF-83282 hydraulic fluid is a synthetic hydrocarbon hydraulic fluid. MIL-PRF-83282 would be a backwards compatible hydraulic fluid for MIL-H-5606 Mineral based hydraulic fluid.

What is the source of the information that you have in this table? Citing this lend credibility to the table.
 
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