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Same as above. Kmc chains great, zero issues and they are cheap.
Only broken ones were sram.
I'll x3 this :) I've always had SRAM mid to upper grade chains and always brake them sooner or later. I put one of the higher up KMC chains (the gold one, I forget the model) on my Moonlander and that thing has been dang durable for how much crap it has been covered in.
 
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No offense taken, I do suppose if I admit to shifting under load I deserve some heckling.

It just tends to happen if I am going fast then find myself on a steep uphill. So I drop from big ring to small and I guess that cross chaining suddenly while trying to pedal uphill is where I go wrong.
 
I'd say I break a moderate number of chains. I've wondered (aloud at times) if running Gripshift causes more broken chains because of the ability to shift across so many cogs in a single twist. Seems like it would put some serious sideways load on the chain.
 
No offense taken, I do suppose if I admit to shifting under load I deserve some heckling.

It just tends to happen if I am going fast then find myself on a steep uphill. So I drop from big ring to small and I guess that cross chaining suddenly while trying to pedal uphill is where I go wrong.
Shifting the front derailleur, especially under load, is hardest on chains.
 
I put the pricey SRAM chain on my necro, never had a problem...until. A couple weeks ago loaded up fully for a multi- day off-road tour. I wasn't shifting, as the hill was big and steep enough to see coming. I was in my granny gear, and as soon as I stood up I said to myself.."this is a bad idea" ...and SNAP! Fixed it, walked up the hill and all was fine.


"You're like a Ferrari engine driving a dump truck"
 
I just upgraded my fatty to a Sram 10spd (XX, new GripShift, PC-1091R chain). I see that the "PowerLock" (vs. the old "PowerLink") link is now tool-less for installation only. I could not get it to lock, so I left it off. Seems almost pointless if you can't take it apart.

From Sram's website:
"SRAM chain engineers developed PowerLock as a tool free, sure and consistent way to connect our 10 speed chains. While PL does not require special tools for install, the especially tight tolerances of 10 Speed drive trains mandated that each PowerLock is good for a one-time application only."

There goes one of my favorite things about Sram chains...
 
I just upgraded my fatty to a Sram 10spd (XX, new GripShift, PC-1091R chain). I see that the "PowerLock" (vs. the old "PowerLink") link is now tool-less for installation only. I could not get it to lock, so I left it off. Seems almost pointless if you can't take it apart.

From Sram's website:
"SRAM chain engineers developed PowerLock as a tool free, sure and consistent way to connect our 10 speed chains. While PL does not require special tools for install, the especially tight tolerances of 10 Speed drive trains mandated that each PowerLock is good for a one-time application only."

There goes one of my favorite things about Sram chains...
I use Shimano Chains with KMC quick links made for said chains.
 
There goes one of my favorite things about Sram chains...
I have read about more than one person re-using the SRAM 10 spd QR links with no ill effect. I haven't had to break my one 10spd SRAM chain, but when I do I plan to reuse the QR link and see what happens.

I have re-used KMC QR links that the manufacturer said were one use only and nothing bad happened. YMMV.
 
I have read about more than one person re-using the SRAM 10 spd qr links with no ill effect. I haven't had to break my one 10spd SRAM chain, but when I do I plan to reuse the qr link and see what happens.
I'd be surprised if you can pull it apart without tools. Like I said, I was unable to get it to lock when installing it. The link moved a few mm and then got stuck on the little "tooth" that's designed to lock it in place.
 
I still have the stock-ass chain on my Necro Pugs that I have had since July 2012. How that chain has lasted through the stuff I put it through is beyond me.

BUT, I do clean and lube it religiously, which I believe helps.
 
I guess I’m in the same boat as the OP. I have broken many chains. First Shimano chains years ago, then SRAM more recently.
I’ve learned a pulse technique to shift on surprise hills. Ram the hell out of the pedals for a quick boost, then back off and shift a few cogs as you follow the momentum with the crank. But of course if a chain is about to break it will always be more likely to do it under load, under shifting, and when crossed.
Are your chains too long? If the chain tension is very low as you drop to the small front ring the chain can ride up on the tips of the teeth, causing jumping and breaking. This can be exaggerated if you are in the big chain ring and small cassette side and choose to shift the front der first. Small + small = loose chain.
Are your chains too short? Most people check for a little remaining action at the rear der when sizing a chain, but that isn’t the whole story. The chain has to have enough length to jump over teeth too. This is exacerbated if you are in the big chain ring and small cassette and choose to shift the rear first. Cross chain plus climbing onto the teeth needs a little extra. Mostly this isn’t a problem since you have to size by two links at a time, but it should be checked.
Are your old chains worn out? This causes all sorts of weird dynamic loading things to happen and increases the odds of failure. There are tools, but an easy way is to compare 10 or more links of a new chain with a used one. When the size difference is noticeable, it is time. Since these things aren’t really sealed, you might just be wearing out chains faster than you think.
Does your chain suck? If you suck the chain into the small ring and BB gap it often gets yanked in through a gap that it doesn’t really fit through. I’ve found pretty significant side link plate damage after a sucking event. Of course if my chain failed later, I would blame all the damage on the breaking event. I wouldn’t consider that the gouge in the link was from earlier. I’ve found the part that is actually stuck may be a handful of links from the part that was mashed through the gap because I force the pedals before I realize I’ve chain sucked. Let the jokes begin.
 
One season I snapped my chains 13 times. I finally looked into it and turns out the chains with shot peened pins are the strongest. When they shot peen the ends of the pins, the links have a harder time bursting open.
 
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