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I guess there is still White Bros.

Improve operating and supply chain efficiencies
We intend to improve operating margins in the medium term by enhancing our design and production processes to increase efficiencies, reducing new product time to market and lowering production costs. Specifically, we have begun the process of moving a majority of the manufacturing of our mountain bike products to Taiwan and intend to complete this process in 2015. We believe this transition to Taiwan, once completed, will shorten production lead times to our mountain bike OEM customers, improve supply chain efficiencies and reduce manufacturing costs.

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I figured the would have learned from others mistakes..I remember another iconic brand moving production and losing alot of their faithful customers . I was one of them .
 
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clockwork said:
I figured the would have learned from others mistakes..I remember another iconic brand moving production and losing alot of their faithful customers . I was one of them .
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I hear you. Today, I refuse to buy another Cannondale product; all I have from them, is their awesome vintage stuff.
 
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blog hogs said:
I don't think of it as another bike company selling out.
I think about how screwed up our economy is that it's sooooooo much cheaper for them to do this.
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Well it's going to be even more screwed up with more people being unemployed , could be a reason the unemployment level doesn't drop. It comes down to corporate greed and shows just how much these corporations value their employees.

This year.............here are just a few moving to Taiwan or China

Jones bikes
Spot Brand bikes
Club ride cycling Apparel
 
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Too bad Fox... I like you but mostly because you are USA made. After paying $600 for a Rockshox that had crooked lowers and them not being able to remedy it because all of their production that year had crooked lowers I am definitely for whatever is cheaper when it comes from Taiwan.
 
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FireLikeIYA said:
Too bad Fox... I like you but mostly because you are USA made. After paying $600 for a Rockshox that had crooked lowers and them not being able to remedy it because all of their production that year had crooked lowers I am definitely for whatever is cheaper when it comes from Taiwan.
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I doubt the retail on fox will drop despite the move.
 
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Asia doesn't have the obstacles that North America is saddled with.... Safety standards, labour unions, taxation, environmental legeslation, etc.... The American dream is gone, the Asian dream has begun. Time to spectate and enjoy the mediocrity until the Asians handcuff themselves with the same rules.
 
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-Todd- said:
Asia doesn't have the obstacles that North America is saddled with.... Safety standards, labour unions, taxation, environmental legeslation, etc.... The American dream is gone, the Asian dream has begun. Time to spectate and enjoy the mediocrity until the Asians handcuff themselves with the same rules.
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It's already begun. There was a dot-com boom/bust....there will also be an Asian mfg boom/bust. Wait for it.....
 
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redmr2_man said:
This is a good move for them. Maybe the forks will work better now?
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Good possibility. Taiwan craftsmanship and skill blows away, that of Communist, Mainland China. In fact - if Fox went to China....I'd never buy them again.
 
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redmr2_man said:
This is a good move for them. Maybe the forks will work better now?
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I actually question whether or not some of their recent issues are from overseas manufacturing. I have read several rumors over the past couple of years online that they already started sourcing the lowers and uppers from overseas and assembling everything here... I contacted them twice before whether their forks were Made in the USA and both times they responded that they are produced in the US or something of that nature... They wouldn't say they are made in the USA.

Azpilot said:
I guess there is still White Bros.
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I contacted White Bros. last year to inquire where their product is made. They informed me that they source from overseas and do the final machining in the U.S.

-Todd- said:
Asia doesn't have the obstacles that North America is saddled with.... Safety standards, labour unions, taxation, environmental legeslation, etc.... The American dream is gone, the Asian dream has begun. Time to spectate and enjoy the mediocrity until the Asians handcuff themselves with the same rules.
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Relevant article - 29% of San Francisco air pollution comes from Asia.

I guess, however, if they are an OEM supplier this transition makes sense. Why import core pieces and assemble in the U.S. only to ship back overseas to be boxed with the bike. I believe this is the loss of infrastructure in the U.S. that they all warned us about...
 
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FireLikeIYA said:
I actually question whether or not some of their recent issues are from overseas manufacturing. I have read several rumors over the past couple of years online that they already started sourcing the lowers and uppers from overseas and assembling everything here...
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Ah the old made in the USA with foreign components. Slapping together forks probably pays what $10-$12/hr? Although they could be taking cues from the auto industry and paying folks with only hs diplomas $40ish/hr to tighten down bolts. Could help explain the ridiculous cost of suspension components.
 
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bigkat273 said:
Ah the old made in the USA with foreign components. Slapping together forks probably pays what $10-$12/hr? Although they could be taking cues from the auto industry and paying folks with only hs diplomas $40ish/hr to tighten down bolts. Could help explain the ridiculous cost of suspension components.
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I'm sure the cost to the consumer for their forks will decrease as soon as they start manufacturing in Taiwan.
 
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As unfortunate as it is, I can see why they would do it. Obviously everything is cheaper, and now they are much closer to their main customers. Makes a ton of sense on paper, unfortunately.

Also, unfortunately, almost nothing is fully made here. To be legally 'made in the USA', you are able to import essentially all parts and slap them together here. There is only a small percentage of the work that needs to be done here.

I remember one day when a US bike switched to overseas manufacturing and the bikes turned out better, unfortunately.
 
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