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Riding roots and hard-packed, I tend more towards the drier days, I'm not a mud rider. I recently got a WTB Bronson Race for the front, I was looking to get something faster and lighter in the rear, still good on cornering.

As I said tubeless 29er.

Thanks in advance.
 
I am running maxxis crossmark on the rear as tubeless. Have also run RaRa and RoRo's but not as tubeless. So far I like the crossmark much better.

Better price and same amount of grip as the Schwalbe for the loose over hard pack riding.
If there is mud on the trail, the crossmark will get a little 'toey' coming out of the turns under power but in a predictable kind of way.
 
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I was really impressed with the Crossmark design. They seem fast i.e. low rolling resistance.

And for the X-king, I would use that up front, but from what I read, at the same weight, the Bronson is hard to beat.
 
Hardpack warrants low and fast tread, and rooty trail warrants higher volume and lower pressure.

What is your preferred tire size? I am in the "bigger is better" boat when it comes to really rooty trail(2.3-2.4). I also ride a rigid bike.

High volume, Maybe Racing ralph 2.35-2.4s... Not the smallest tread, but very fast
Medium, I would check out Race King 2.2 (actually meausre 2.25)
fairly low volume, Ikon 2.2 (actually measure 2.15)

All of these are fast tires on hardpack.
 
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Hardpack warrants low and fast tread, and rooty trail warrants higher volume and lower pressure.

What is your preferred tire size? I am in the "bigger is better" boat when it comes to really rooty trail(2.3-2.4). I also ride a rigid bike.

High volume, Maybe Racing ralph 2.35-2.4s... Not the smallest tread, but very fast
Medium, I would check out Race King 2.2 (actually meausre 2.25)
fairly low volume, Ikon 2.2 (actually measure 2.15)

All of these are fast tires on hardpack.
Thank you, I've been analyzing tire setups people have posted to get the "formula". This helps much.

I'm very new to my bike, I haven't had much trail time- maybe two dozen rides? And yes, I'm on a hardtail.

What I've Used and Learned
I've only used my 2.25 Rocket Ron's, I really do like them: climbing, resistance, braking, wear... But I have noticed a few times the front slipping out on turns. That may be my mistake, as I have not found the right pressure yet, nor am I running tubeless. And I'm bad on "trail flow" I hit all the roots, but am still able to keep up with the "team racer" guys.

What I Need
That being said anything to improve my confidence in corners, maintain my speed, and eat roots is what I'm looking for. (Specifications)

What I Have
I ended up buying a WTB Bronson 2.2 Race, got it for $25, so no complaint. I will be using that front. From what I read, I should have no issue cornering, but it does not seem as fast as the RoRo.

What I Want
I was hoping to pick up some speed and save some weight in the rear, all to my previous specifications.

And to answer your question, I cannot speak of what volume I want. I've only tried one tire. What are recommendations for rear? Is it important that the rear preform well over roots? Or is it a climbing and speed tire?
 
Thank you, I've been analyzing tire setups people have posted to get the "formula". This helps much.

I'm very new to my bike, I haven't had much trail time- maybe two dozen rides? And yes, I'm on a hardtail.

What I've Used and Learned
I've only used my 2.25 Rocket Ron's, I really do like them: climbing, resistance, braking, wear... But I have noticed a few times the front slipping out on turns. That may be my mistake, as I have not found the right pressure yet, nor am I running tubeless. And I'm bad on "trail flow" I hit all the roots, but am still able to keep up with the "team racer" guys.

What I Need
That being said anything to improve my confidence in corners, maintain my speed, and eat roots is what I'm looking for. (Specifications)

What I Have
I ended up buying a WTB Bronson 2.2 Race, got it for $25, so no complaint. I will be using that front. From what I read, I should have no issue cornering, but it does not seem as fast as the RoRo.

What I Want
I was hoping to pick up some speed and save some weight in the rear, all to my previous specifications.

And to answer your question, I cannot speak of what volume I want. I've only tried one tire. What are recommendations for rear? Is it important that the rear preform well over roots? Or is it a climbing and speed tire?
I think it is more user error than tire error. The rocket ron tires you are using are some of the best tires for XC racing. Does that mean they are the best type of tire for your riding? I think you would answer this as no. I find the rons stick like glue to hardpack and I can corner extremely fast on them. Like you said you may not have found the right pressure or your riding style and the rons do not mesh well. You did say in an earlier post that you're still new without a lot of trail time. Most ron users have ridden a lot over the years.

With all of that said, I would try the Bronson on the front and the Ron in the rear. You want more grip in the front. I cannot tell you of a tire that would be lighter and faster than the ron in the rear. The other tires recommend here are fantastic, but they're all in the same category as the ron in terms of speed and weight. You may need more tread on your tires for grip since you're still newer to the sport or simply work on your flow.

I reread your post and if I were you I would go out alone and work on your flow. You're chasing "team racer" guys and my prediction is you're out of your comfort zone chasing these very fast riders because you're bashing into trail obstacles. A 2.25 Ron will eat roots about as well as any tire in that size unless you want to go w/ a bigger volume 2.4 etc and then you gain tire weight. I recommend working on your form when you're not chasing these very fast people. I think your tires are highly capable of what you're wanting to do.
 
Quote Originally Posted by rnm410 View Post
"I hear schwalbe is no good tubeless."

Where did you hear that? This will be my third season running racing ralphs tubeless. Only one slow leak so far, and no flats.
I'd like to know where he heard that as well. I've been tubeless on Schwalbe tires (Ralphs) since they first came out in 29"er size. Got my first ones back in 2007 - and they are still running today. Ralph 2.4's on my Karate Monkey tubeless.
 
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