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I want to buy a set of new brakes for enduro and light dh use.
Zee's seem to be amazing from a lot of reviews i erad.
I found, for just 90$ more, a pair of the new 2017 guide rsc with the S4 caliper.

What would you buy?
I am really tempted for the guides, but i am a bit concerned of the issues that read in multiple forums.

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I own the Zees and was one of the first people in my area to get their hands on a Guide. The Guide series is a vast improvement over SRAM/Avid's previous brakes but it's still outclassed by the Zees. The Zees have far more power and fade resistance, and don't up anything in control & modulation. The Zee pads also last longer especially under heavy use. IMO the Guides are good trail brakes but they're not really made for enduro and DH use even though a lot of enduro & DH bikes are spec'd with them.

Personal thoughts. Get the Zees unless the ergonomics don't work or a few ounces of weight really matters to you. On anything other than an XC race bike, I'd take the Zee every time.
 

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Guides for sure


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The big difference between the Shimanos and the SRAMs is modulation.

Guides have a lot of it, too much in my opinion, but they are still good brakes.

Shimano's definitely have more of an on/off feeling. I like it. Being able to lock up the rear wheel very easily is something I depend on to throw the bike around.

Otherwise, with large enough rotors, either can handle "enduro" riding.
 

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the zees are out of the way, cause for a few bucks more i get the saints (i got an offer).

what about the hope tech3 e4?
i read very positive reviews everywhere in the web!
 

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Out of the three hope blows the competition out of the window. Actually if it wasn't for my formula RO with custom lever modification, I would rock a hope!


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zee for reliability and power. even the resin non-finned pads are great.

modulation is different from the guide but you can learn on how to work it. you just have to figure out the initial bite point and get used to it.


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Ooo bringing hope into this comparisons is just not fair ;-)


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you can't compare hope with the saint, zee, or guide's, because the hope's cant match the power of these. used some sets of hope, m4 most of the time, even the guide's are more powerfull, modulation is good, but if you want stopping power, forget the hope's
 
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