It will push SRAM to make a wide range cassette that fits normal hub bodies and costs under $200, everybody wins.Literally 'too little, too late'.
Maybe they will get it right and do 10 or 11-42 on coming XT or Saint...
Actually, SRAM will be forced to do nothing until after this group is released and then they can wait another year later when the affordable XT version is released and then wait some more until Shimano proves to have won back market/mind share. In the meantime, I imagine SRAM are still feeling pretty relieved that their drivetrain offers a unique departure from what Shimano is doubling down on. So essentially they can look at this not really as competition at all until it actually proves to be.The new XTR system appears to be what I have been looking for in a drivetrain. Too bad I wont be able to afford it. The fact that it uses a standard hub will pretty much kill SRAM's 1x11 or at least force their hand to offer their system for less.
If you are concerned about looks then I think you will feel at home HERE.
Literally 'too little, too late'.
Maybe they will get it right and do 10 or 11-42 on coming XT or Saint...
I got plenty of 4-5 miles climb and a few longer than that. I'm not a strong rider, so 30x40 (equivalent to 22x28 roughly) would not cut it for me. I need my granny gear. For fit riders, it's probably just fine. Regardless, the One Up/Wolftooth/General Lee aftermarket parts give you exactly the same range (or better) at a fraction of the cost. I don't see much value in an extra cog. SRAM must be excited about the news. Their XX1 is safe as the reference in 1x drivetrains.Looks like a pretty decent step forward to me. I'm just commenting on the 1x aspect of things. The 1140 should have plenty of range for the average rider. I don't know why you think there isn't enough range. 30x40 is tall? Really? I don't have huge extended climbs near me, so maybe I have a different perspective. We do have some really steep climbs and I can crawl up anything with the 32x42, which should be similar to 30x40. (I didn't plug those into a gear calculator, so maybe I'm wrong) I also wouldn't call myself a weekend warrior.
I like the fact that it fits a regular hub, plenty of range IMO, my question is how well the retention is on the single ring. I'd have to imagine Shimano tested it pretty thoroughly, but time will tell. Sucks that you need a new chain and rings, I agree a 10 spd wide range cassette would rock.
Did I quote you? When I wrote this I just came from bikerumor.com. Half of the comments are about the looks of the cranks. It was a blanket statement. I see how I look like a prick from your point of view being the next comment. I was afraid I quoted you instead of just hitting reply to thread, lol... I would have been a real chump then. Sorry man!As far as calling me a roadie for commenting on the looks.... well that really, super, duper, duper, duper, hurts my feelings.And If you are implying that design/aesthetic doesn't matter in the salability of ultra-high end mountain bikes then you are more naive than your comments lead one to believe.
OK I guess I jumped the gun on that one....your comment about those concerned about the looks right after I posted about the looks [ugliness] of the group led me to believe that...well my apologies.Did I quote you?
My custys are happy with xx1--no front der, no front shifter. If shimano just made a 11-42 cassette, the problem pretty much goes away. Hopefully it's just an XTR thing.Kaj, I think the idea is that your customers don't need to compromise.