I just got one of these and I don't see what the big deal is. I guess it won't get snagged, but it certainly does not shift better, and it's not quiet like they say. Does anyone else think it's a lot of hype for no performance?
how many do you need , you have one on your shiftermoto367 said:yep- and the barral adjuster is gone too. I liked having the extra adjustment.
Hasn't the major difference between XT and XTR always been mainly weight?mlepito said:I don't see a difference between xt and xtr anymore either. That's why I started buying xt. I'm used to rapid rise, and that's why I don't like the shifting on the shadow. I'll give it a couple more rides. If I don't like it, I have a spare xt rapid rise from last year I can use. The shadow came on the new bike.
sometimes,Datalogger said:Hasn't the major difference between XT and XTR always been mainly weight?
Ok, I've always heard that XTR was simply the Race version of XT.dan0 said:sometimes,
things like derailliers have better/ more bearings, closer tolerances, etc.
allot of times its weight , but they get lower weight by using more expensive alloys. The xtr shifters have multiple shifts in both directions. my Xtr underwear never gets skidmarks:yikes:
I'd say that was the case... Although in the past I can remember something like the 2nd edition XTR came out, then they updated XT (dripped down 'the technology') and some of the XT parts came out lighter than XTR (I think it was the shifters, but then I'd have to dig through 10+ years of old bike mags to get the true facts).Datalogger said:Hasn't the major difference between XT and XTR always been mainly weight?
from the shimano websiteSteveUK said:"things like derailliers have better/ more bearings, closer tolerances, etc..."
You have bearings in your derailleur?
Shifting 'performance' is mostly determined by the shifter, not the derailleur. A drivetrain with XTR shifter and XT derailleur will feel notably better than one with XT shifter and XTR derailleur.
True, alot less crying involved when needing to replace an XT part! Lol.mlepito said:I stopped getting xtr over xt when the price difference became so high. they both break when you smash them on a rock.
Hey, with all the good you've done on this forum you'll allways get a pass with me:thumbsup:SteveUK said:"Guide Pulley sealed bearing...Tension Pulley sealed bearing "
What a tool!! The pulley bearings didn't even cross my mind. My apologies for pulling you up about that, Dan. That'll teach me to post when I'm not paying attention...