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Hi All,

I'm thinking about picking up a used XCE or new Burner. I'm getting over a back injury and want to try riding FS. I figure a Turner is the way to go since resale is so good. If my back's not up to it I chalk it up to a not-so-expensive experiment.

I know XCE's may not have the best resale right now but I like the fact that they seem to be a heavy duty 4" bike. I also like the fact they were built around coil rear shocks.

I've been reading in the archives all morning and don't think I understand the XCE completely. I would like to know the 1) top tube length, 2) seat tube angle, and 3) head tube angle of the medium XCE.

Also, what is the stock rear travel of the XCE. Always 4", correct?

Also, I'm not sure if I completely understand the benefit of the Romic rockers on the XCE. No change in geometry or travel, but allows one to get 4" with the Romic shock?

Sorry for such basic questions. I've been totally out of the MTB loop while recovering from this injury and have not kept up on this stuff.
 

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I've been reading in the archives all morning and don't think I understand the XCE completely. I would like to know the 1) top tube length, 2) seat tube angle, and 3) head tube angle of the medium XCE.
XCE's weren't sized by Small, Medium, Large, etc. They went by seat tube length. Size medium is equivalent to the 18" XCE frame.

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Also, what is the stock rear travel of the XCE. Always 4", correct?
Yes... or no... or well maybe... As delivered stock, I think the XCE always had 4" of travel. However, prior to 2002, the XCE used a non-standard 6.5" eye-to-eye, 1.75" stroke Fox Vanilla RC coil shock to get that 4" of travel (standard 6.5" eye-to-eye shocks normally have a 1.5" stroke). So, using a standard 6.5"/1.5" shock on an XCE (if for example, you wanted to replace the stock coil shock with an air shock) will yield about 3.4" of travel.

In 2002, the Romic rear shock was an option on the XCE. However, the Romic shock had a standard 1.5" stroke, so to get the full 4" of travel, the Romic equiped XCE's came with special rockers that gave the full 4" of travel with the Romic shock (or with any other standard 6.5"/1.5" shock).


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Also, I'm not sure if I completely understand the benefit of the Romic rockers on the XCE. No change in geometry or travel, but allows one to get 4" with the Romic shock?
The Romic rockers allow you to get 4" of travel with a standard 6.5" eye-to-eye, 1.5" stroke shock. In other words, if you buy an older Fox Vanilla RC equiped XCE and you want to put another shock on the bike, you will end up with only 3.4" of travel. So, to get 4" of travel, you would also need to get the Romic rockers.

What has been said here regarding the Romic rockers on the XCE is also true for the Burner. They will allow the Burner to get 4" of travel with a standard shock.

Clear as mud, right?
 

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Thanks...

Your explanation of the shock stroke makes total sense. I found a more confusing explanation in the archives that I wanted to clarify. You did that nicely :)

Thanks for the spec diagram. The first XCE I found for sale was listed as a medium, hence my confusion.

Just curious, do todays 6.5" Vanilla's have a 1.5" stroke? Not that it matters, if I buy a used XCE with a blown Vanilla I'll just have it Pushed.
 

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Just curious, do todays 6.5" Vanilla's have a 1.5" stroke? Not that it matters, if I buy a used XCE with a blown Vanilla I'll just have it Pushed.
I'm not sure what you mean by "todays Vanillas". Do you mean the Vanillas available after market from Fox? They are 6.5"/1.5". I don't think a 6.5"/1.75" shock has ever been made available aftermarket by Fox. The 6.5"/1.75" Vanilla RC's on the XCE were custom made by Fox for the XCE and were not available after market. However, Stratos makes a 6.5"/1.75" coil shock and Cane Creek makes a 6.5"/1.75" air shock, which are both available after market.

The Fox float shocks that are currently used on the Burner are 6.5"/1.5" as well.
 
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