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WTB Speed TCS AM 29 hubs

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mtnbiker72

Discussion Starter · Feb 25, 2011

Anyone got info on these?

The only think I can tell from pictures is that they have a steel FH body. Are they cartridge or cup/cone bearings? POE?

I'm interested in the wheelset but cannot find any information on the hubs

Thanks

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Flyin_W

· #2 · Feb 27, 2011

Yes, placed a call to WTB, who were most helpful.
WTB Speed TCS AM 29er wheels
Hubs: 32h, loose ball/cone, 3 pawl/15 poe
TCS AM Rim: 26mm wide 470g
Wheels: 2237g. [front-1023g / rear-1214g]
Spokes: 14 gauge

TCS Rims n/a until April.

I grew tired of the current 29er UST rim situation, as none are readily available. Only as pre-built wheels with unknown private-label hubs. Can now understand how premium hubs command their cost. Just not thirsty enough to drink the UST koolaid, and got Flow's..

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mtnbiker72

Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 27, 2011

Flyin'W said:
Yes, placed a call to WTB, who were most helpful.
WTB Speed TCS AM 29er wheels
Hubs: 32h, loose ball/cone, 3 pawl/15 poe
TCS AM Rim: 26mm wide 470g
Wheels: 2237g. [front-1023g / rear-1214g]
Spokes: 14 gauge

TCS Rims n/a until April.

I grew tired of the current 29er UST rim situation, as none are readily available. Only as pre-built wheels with unknown private-label hubs. Can now understand how premium hubs command their cost. Just not thirsty enough to drink the UST koolaid, and got Flow's..

They want $400 for the wheelset for cheap Formula hubs...

rft:

It never ceases to amaze me what garbage companies use for hubs on their pre-built wheels.:eekster:

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shiggy

· #4 · Feb 27, 2011 (Edited)

mtnbiker72 said:
They want $400 for the wheelset for cheap Formula hubs...rft:

It never ceases to amaze me what garbage companies use for hubs on their pre-built wheels.:eekster:

IIRC the high end Striker wheels are ~$1000.

Bonty Rhythm Comp wheels w/Formula hubs are~$450.

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mtnbiker72

Discussion Starter · #5 · Feb 27, 2011

shiggy said:
Bonty Rhythm Comp wheels w/Formula hubs are~$450.

Another perfect example, thus proving my point

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Flyin_W

· #6 · Feb 27, 2011

mtnbiker72 said:
Another perfect example, thus proving my point

Yeah, I too have found this UST game both tedious and frustrating. To get a UST 29er rim today, one must buy pre-built. With all but American Classic, their hub specs are not readily posted, one must dig for info, and for good reason - they're inferior to even mid-priced hubs.

Although Formula does make some decent stuff, I believe that the DT 350, Hope Pro II, Halo Spin Dr Pro, and DMR 6 pawl are more reliable. Really now, who wants to spend good $$ to upgrade stock wheels when the critical component is an unknown, failure prone, and uses non-standard parts? Replacement spokes, rims from your LBS? Ya good luck with that.

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shiggy

· #7 · Feb 27, 2011

Flyin'W said:
Yeah, I too have found this UST game both tedious and frustrating. To get a UST 29er rim today, one must buy pre-built. With all but American Classic, their hub specs are not readily posted, one must dig for info, and for good reason - they're inferior to even mid-priced hubs.

Although Formula does make some decent stuff, I believe that the DT 350, Hope Pro II, Halo Spin Dr Pro, and DMR 6 pawl are more reliable. Really now, who wants to spend good $$ to upgrade stock wheels when the critical component is an unknown, failure prone, and uses non-standard parts? Replacement spokes, rims from your LBS? Ya good luck with that.

Bonty TLR rims are UST compatible and I think they work better than the Mavic UST rims.

I have had a set of Bonty Rhythm Comp wheels with Formula cartridge bearing hubs for more than 5 years. No issues at all and have never needed servicing.

There should be another aluminum UST compatible rim (26 and 29) coming later this year. About 21mm inside width. Will use a sealing tape similar to the American Classic, WTB, Velocity method.

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mtnbiker72

Discussion Starter · #8 · Feb 27, 2011

Yes, I wasn't referring to all Formula hubs as they make some reliable product. I was just noting that their loose ball/cone hubs tend to be their cheap ones.

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Flyin_W

· #9 · Feb 28, 2011

Unless I'm missing something, Mavic, does not produce a wide UST 29er rim. I run fat tires, and seek 26+ wide UST rims to support them. Viewed UST as a step towards standardization to eliminate headaches with rim <--> tire incompatibility.

Discovered that neither the Bonty or WTB UST 32 hole rims are currently available. The local Trek dealer explained that the Mustang & Duster are no longer shown in stock, and had no idea when any new UST rims would be available.

So until April when WTB's Speed TCS AM 29er rim is due, plus whatever new rumored models actually arrive, those of us in the US seeking a wider UST 29" rim in 32-h are pretty much SOL... Unless, one drinks the koolaid, and succumbs to the mktg hype of pre-built wheels, fewer spokes, and mystery hubs.
If I'm wrong here please tell me... [end of rant]

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mtnbiker72

Discussion Starter · #10 · Feb 28, 2011

Flyin'W said:
Unless I'm missing something, Mavic, does not produce a wide UST 29er rim. I run fat tires, and seek 26+ wide UST rims to support them. Viewed UST as a step towards standardization to eliminate headaches with rim <--> tire incompatibility.

Discovered that neither the Bonty or WTB UST 32 hole rims are currently available. The local Trek dealer explained that the Mustang & Duster are no longer shown in stock, and had no idea when any new UST rims would be available.

So until April when WTB's Speed TCS AM 29er rim is due, plus whatever new rumored models actually arrive, those of us in the US seeking a wider UST 29" rim in 32-h are pretty much SOL... Unless, one drinks the koolaid, and succumbs to the mktg hype of pre-built wheels, fewer spokes, and mystery hubs.
If I'm wrong here please tell me... [end of rant]

The M520 Rim (26.2mm wide) with the XM/M29 Tubeless Kit is designed to work with UST spec tires.

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