the wraitchilds have bigger lugs and I think come with the concave XL studs. I don't think it gets much better tractionwise than the wraithchild.
WRATHCHILD FAT 5 26 vs DILLINGER 5 - 26 for groomed track
What do you suggest. I need good traction for climbing
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by XL studs do you mean extra large ? Do you mean that the wraitchilds doesn't get much traction than Dillinger ?the wraitchilds have bigger lugs and I think come with the concave XL studs. I don't think it gets much better tractionwise than the wraithchild.
yes. 45 north has standard size and XL studs. the wraithchilds have the XL studs and very deep lugs. the dillingers have more conventional studs and the lugs arent as deep. The wraithchilds will not roll as fast as the dillingers, but the wraithchilds have superior traction IMO.
I have ran dillengers for close to a decade. They work.
with that said, i have never tried another studded tire.
with that said, i have never tried another studded tire.
I rode Dillinger 27.5x4 studded last year and I’m running 26x4.2 Wrathlordes this year. I think the Dillingers were better on ice and the Wrathlordes are better on snow etc.
Wrathchilds will give you better climbing traction in a wide diversity of winter conditions than just about any tire.I need good traction for climbing
If you do not see ice on your trails, Bud and Lou would be at or near the top of the climbing traction list.
If you only ride ice, then the tire with the most studs would likely win the day.
Nothing beats the Johnny 5 for grip and confidence.
I run both dillinger 5's and wrathchilds. The wrathchilds are much better on loose than the dillingers. Dillingers roll faster, wrathchilds grip better.
D5s work well as a rear tire on packed surfaces. It is terrible as a front tire unless you're going straight all the time. If you are set on those tires, I'd run D5 in the rear and the Wrathchild up front for more grip and less understeer.
I have both tires (wrath and D5) and the D5 is not a terrible front tire. Its a fast front tire, and plenty wide and grippy and does what it should very well. I would never race the wraths over the D5s, and for casual riding I enjoy both. The wrath outright traction is second to none, but it is very slow. I run it early and late season and run the D5 in between.D5s work well as a rear tire on packed surfaces. It is terrible as a front tire unless you're going straight all the time. If you are set on those tires, I'd run D5 in the rear and the Wrathchild up front for more grip and less understeer.
The difference between tires is not huge. The difference between conditions, like dry cold snow below 5F and wet sloppy snow at 25F is ginormous. If we were talking like a meaty 27.5 like gnarlwhals, then there might be a significant climbing traction difference, but between two similar casing size tires of the same wheel size...the difference for climbing traction just isn't very big IME. Rolling resistance differences are much more significant IME. A much wider AND more aggressive tire, like MikeC suggests, would definitely climb better, but again, similar size casings to what you are currently using? Not a big difference at the same wheel size IME.What do you suggest. I need good traction for climbing
It's funny this thread popped up because I'm currently contemplating those 2 tires. I actually messaged 2 members here just before the thread was started.
I've been on Wrathchilds for 3 or 4 years now and contemplating going to D5's because I've heard for the added rolling resistance the correlating traction bump is not equal. I'm in Minnesota so relatively flat, but loose snow on smaller climbs and off cambers or riding fast through corners can get slippery. I have Bud and Lou on a separate wheelset for the deep and really loose days. Most of the time I'm on groomed or ridden in singletrack so that's my target of an all around decent tire.
For the OP. Wrathchilds are not a bad tire. I just like to go fast. I'm 145lbs so relatively light weight. I'm a decently skilled rider in snow and am on the faster end of the regular guys. The local elite guys will always be faster than me. I rode with an elite guy last week and it was groomed but not set up so a couple inches of soft snow and he was kicking my tail on a D5 and D4 while I was struggling on Wrathchilds to get through the same snow. I've also struggled to keep up with guys in loose stuff when they're running Escalators. Obviously there's a whole skill factor that I also need to overcome.
I've been on Wrathchilds for 3 or 4 years now and contemplating going to D5's because I've heard for the added rolling resistance the correlating traction bump is not equal. I'm in Minnesota so relatively flat, but loose snow on smaller climbs and off cambers or riding fast through corners can get slippery. I have Bud and Lou on a separate wheelset for the deep and really loose days. Most of the time I'm on groomed or ridden in singletrack so that's my target of an all around decent tire.
For the OP. Wrathchilds are not a bad tire. I just like to go fast. I'm 145lbs so relatively light weight. I'm a decently skilled rider in snow and am on the faster end of the regular guys. The local elite guys will always be faster than me. I rode with an elite guy last week and it was groomed but not set up so a couple inches of soft snow and he was kicking my tail on a D5 and D4 while I was struggling on Wrathchilds to get through the same snow. I've also struggled to keep up with guys in loose stuff when they're running Escalators. Obviously there's a whole skill factor that I also need to overcome.
Wrathchild is grippier in loose snow and ice than the D5. On smooth the D5 rolls faster. Same size casing but very different tires.
J5? Almost as good as a Wrathchild on glare ice. Next level float and traction in deeper looser snow. When the snow is softer and deeper I just keep on truckin’ with the J5. But a big tire to lug around is you ride smooth groomed trails.
J5? Almost as good as a Wrathchild on glare ice. Next level float and traction in deeper looser snow. When the snow is softer and deeper I just keep on truckin’ with the J5. But a big tire to lug around is you ride smooth groomed trails.
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