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Winter riding Brevard area

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The Mrs. and I are staying in Brevard area over Christmas. I'm planning on riding most everyday and then going with my wife to do sightseeing, hiking, etc. I like most types of riding except for big jumps and drops. Favorite ride is fast with some features (small-medium jumps, drops, rock gardens) and I'm a decent climber and sort of embrace the suffering. I'm coming from northwest Arkansas so ride a variety of terrain and elevation changes, though obviously not as high as WNC. I have ridden in the rockies, though, and had no issues with the high mountains.

Planning on DuPont - probably start with the "best of DuPoint 2019 update" route. Other opinions?

Unsure on Pisgah yet. I like chunk and technical rides but will be solo so have to use caution and better judgement. Welcome any recommendations.

Nearby Brevard - Mills River, Trace Ridge was recommended but that's as far as I've gotten so far. Looks like quite a few trails in that area. Other recommendations?

Kanuga - I have an eMTB and plan on bringing it to ride here. Best I can tell, not much (if any) of the other local trails allow e-bikes. Is that right?

I've checked the trails conditions thread here but it's not been updated in several weeks. Given the time of year I have to assume a good chance of rain. Also, looks like there was some flooding and damage a couple/few months ago but Brevard area seems to have been mostly spared. Wet weather recommendations?

Sorry for the long post. I'm excited to visit the area.
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Weather could be anything, honestly. Lately it's been very warm and dry, but that's changing.

Pretty much your options to ride an emtb are Kanuga and Fire Mtn.

Keep in mind that Dupont trails may close if it's wet enough. Also, freeze/thaw conditions can be trouble if there's enough moisture in the soil. If that becomes a thing, ride very early before things begin to thaw (basically be done by 10am or so).

Don't be afraid of Pisgah. Yes, there are technical trails in Pisgah, but nothing is all THAT bad. If you're a well-traveled rider, you should be fine.

There was some bad flooding in August. Most trails are fine by now. The area that got hit worst was the upper Davidson River valley area (especially upstream from the fish hatchery), the upper Pigeon River valley (other side of the Blue Ridge Parkway, the neighborhood of Crusoe area, especially) which are all still affected. You can't park at the fish hatchery lot, as that area is still not open. However my understanding is that the trails are open. The trails around Daniel's and Farlow got hit hard and especially the lower parts of Daniel's have some big washouts. There are some small roadside lots in the area, but parking will be very limited because the hatchery lot is closed. So if you want to go to this area, keep that in mind.

The lower observation deck at Looking Glass falls is closed (HUGE logjam above the falls and when that goes, it's going to take out that deck). Also sliding rock (though that's not a winter site, anyway).
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Weather could be anything, honestly. Lately it's been very warm and dry, but that's changing.

Pretty much your options to ride an emtb are Kanuga and Fire Mtn.

Keep in mind that Dupont trails may close if it's wet enough. Also, freeze/thaw conditions can be trouble if there's enough moisture in the soil. If that becomes a thing, ride very early before things begin to thaw (basically be done by 10am or so).

Don't be afraid of Pisgah. Yes, there are technical trails in Pisgah, but nothing is all THAT bad. If you're a well-traveled rider, you should be fine.

There was some bad flooding in August. Most trails are fine by now. The area that got hit worst was the upper Davidson River valley area (especially upstream from the fish hatchery), the upper Pigeon River valley (other side of the Blue Ridge Parkway, the neighborhood of Crusoe area, especially) which are all still affected. You can't park at the fish hatchery lot, as that area is still not open. However my understanding is that the trails are open. The trails around Daniel's and Farlow got hit hard and especially the lower parts of Daniel's have some big washouts. There are some small roadside lots in the area, but parking will be very limited because the hatchery lot is closed. So if you want to go to this area, keep that in mind.

The lower observation deck at Looking Glass falls is closed (HUGE logjam above the falls and when that goes, it's going to take out that deck). Also sliding rock (though that's not a winter site, anyway).
Thanks a lot, Harold. I thought that was the case on eMTB. I'm going to bring two bikes - a longer travel and either my ebike or an XC. I love the XC bike because it's light and a great climber. The ebike is awesome for self-shuttling and perfect for Kanuga. Just have to make up my mind.

Good note on freeze/thaw. It's a big issue here. I don't mind getting out early but I hate the cold. Ha.

And thanks for the note on Pisgah. I was just concerned given a lot of comments I've read. Now just have to narrow down what to ride. So many trails between Brevard and Asheville. Good problem to have.

Thanks again!
Thanks a lot, Harold. I thought that was the case on eMTB. I'm going to bring two bikes - a longer travel and either my ebike or an XC. I love the XC bike because it's light and a great climber. The ebike is awesome for self-shuttling and perfect for Kanuga. Just have to make up my mind.

Good note on freeze/thaw. It's a big issue here. I don't mind getting out early but I hate the cold. Ha.

And thanks for the note on Pisgah. I was just concerned given a lot of comments I've read. Now just have to narrow down what to ride. So many trails between Brevard and Asheville. Good problem to have.

Thanks again!
I think Pisgah has a scary reputation because of all the flatlanders that come here and it's the absolute gnarliest stuff they've ever seen. There are approachable trails if the technical stuff intimidates you, and there's really no huge mandatory air and really not much huge-consequence stuff, so if you need to do some hike-a-bike, it's no problem to do so.

The Trace Ridge area has a lot of those more approachable trails. Spencer/Fletcher is a personal favorite (though the water crossings on Fletcher can be a bit of a shock in the cold weather) ;-) Lower (and now middle) black are approachable as long as you're willing to climb (sounds like you are, so you'll be fine).

As for which bikes to bring, there's certainly places for all your bikes. You'd probably enjoy the xc bike at Dupont or Bent Creek (if you went there), but that bike might be a bit punishing on the rougher stuff in Pisgah. You see folks on xc bikes out on the tougher trails usually considered as "Pisgah", but not all that many. It's hard work to ride an xc bike on the faster and rougher Pisgah descents.
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I think Pisgah has a scary reputation because of all the flatlanders that come here and it's the absolute gnarliest stuff they've ever seen. There are approachable trails if the technical stuff intimidates you, and there's really no huge mandatory air and really not much huge-consequence stuff, so if you need to do some hike-a-bike, it's no problem to do so.

The Trace Ridge area has a lot of those more approachable trails. Spencer/Fletcher is a personal favorite (though the water crossings on Fletcher can be a bit of a shock in the cold weather) ;-) Lower (and now middle) black are approachable as long as you're willing to climb (sounds like you are, so you'll be fine).

As for which bikes to bring, there's certainly places for all your bikes. You'd probably enjoy the xc bike at Dupont or Bent Creek (if you went there), but that bike might be a bit punishing on the rougher stuff in Pisgah. You see folks on xc bikes out on the tougher trails usually considered as "Pisgah", but not all that many. It's hard work to ride an xc bike on the faster and rougher Pisgah descents.
Awesome! Thanks so much for your detailed responses. Very, very helpful.

That makes sense about perception. I ride quit a few black trails and occasional double-black but usually with some hike-a-bike. I'm old and have broken many bones so I try to be smart about what I try. Doesn't always work.

Thanks for the tips on the trails. Bent Creek was also on my list but not the others you listed. Will go research.
Awesome! Thanks so much for your detailed responses. Very, very helpful.

That makes sense about perception. I ride quit a few black trails and occasional double-black but usually with some hike-a-bike. I'm old and have broken many bones so I try to be smart about what I try. Doesn't always work.

Thanks for the tips on the trails. Bent Creek was also on my list but not the others you listed. Will go research.
Most don't consider Bent Creek to be a destination trail system on its own. It's an after-work or short-on-time trail system for Asheville locals for the most part, and there's a campground right in the middle, so it's easy to just venture out straight from camp.

Spencer and Fletcher are other trails that are accessed from the Trace Ridge parking area. The bottom of the Black Mtn Trail is right next to the Pisgah Ranger District ranger station on US-276 near Brevard. There are 4 segments of it, and the lower 2 are most approachable. The upper segments are pretty cool, also. you'll see lots of discussion about those trails in the forum because a big chunk was rebuilt this year.
Most don't consider Bent Creek to be a destination trail system on its own. It's an after-work or short-on-time trail system for Asheville locals for the most part, and there's a campground right in the middle, so it's easy to just venture out straight from camp.

Spencer and Fletcher are other trails that are accessed from the Trace Ridge parking area. The bottom of the Black Mtn Trail is right next to the Pisgah Ranger District ranger station on US-276 near Brevard. There are 4 segments of it, and the lower 2 are most approachable. The upper segments are pretty cool, also. you'll see lots of discussion about those trails in the forum because a big chunk was rebuilt this year.
Excellent! So glad for all your help. Been a bit difficult to try to narrow down from everything google is bringing up.
Excellent! So glad for all your help. Been a bit difficult to try to narrow down from everything google is bringing up.
there are a lot of options. I think your best bet will be to look at some maps to see what's there to help you direct your google searching.
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If rain is an issue..... Kanuga handles the rain very well! You can ride the ebike or the pedal bike,you just wont get as many laps.
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What mileage you looking to do each day? That best of Dupont route is only 13 miles. If you head to Pisgah, you'll be limited on routes if you can't do longer rides.

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What mileage you looking to do each day? That best of Dupont route is only 13 miles. If you head to Pisgah, you'll be limited on routes if you can't do longer rides.

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Mostly 20-25 with maybe 30+ a time or two.
NW Arkansas and Pisgah/Dupont are my pilgrimages. I'm from Northern Ontario so getting south to ride in the fall and spring has been necessary for my disposition. (Been riding Pisgah for 25 years) I've never stopped in Brevard near Christmas, I'll just head straight to Florida! :)
I usually ride for a few days on the way to relatives places and usually on my own. I have some favourite routes that I feel 'safe-ish' on. I'm 'experienced' ie 64years old.
Some of my faves that make me feel like I've come home:
Dupont:
1.Freehub Magazine: Big Rock Loop but I add the climb and decent across the road: Rock Quarry to Wilkie. It's a good warm up to a shortish but fun ride. Make sure you do Burnt Mtn clockwise.

2. Best of Dupont 2019 - highlighted by Big Rock, hickory mtn, and ridgeline.

Pisgah:
1. Black Mtn: middle and bottom, then add Grassy to Sycamore. (I've done Blk Mtn Upper a few years ago but I wasn't in good enough shape to enjoy it, the downs are awesome, the climbs and hikes are grewsome) Haven't ridden the new middle yet but it should be shear joy!

2. Daniels Ridge: some reason I just love this trail, extend this by climbing Cove creek.

Over the years I usually try something new (Bennett Gap was the latest) and all have been a great adventure. I just keep going back to those, my comfort rides.

PS. Just did a week in NWA (the first day the land border opened) what a blast Coler, Slaughter Pen, Eureka Springs, and new this time Devil's Den and Mt. Nemo.......Wow what a destination area!!! Well done NWA!!
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NW Arkansas and Pisgah/Dupont are my pilgrimages. I'm from Northern Ontario so getting south to ride in the fall and spring has been necessary for my disposition. (Been riding Pisgah for 25 years) I've never stopped in Brevard near Christmas, I'll just head straight to Florida! :)
I usually ride for a few days on the way to relatives places and usually on my own. I have some favourite routes that I feel 'safe-ish' on. I'm 'experienced' ie 64years old.
Some of my faves that make me feel like I've come home:
Dupont:
1.Freehub Magazine: Big Rock Loop but I add the climb and decent across the road: Rock Quarry to Wilkie. It's a good warm up to a shortish but fun ride. Make sure you do Burnt Mtn clockwise.

2. Best of Dupont 2019 - highlighted by Big Rock, hickory mtn, and ridgeline.

Pisgah:
1. Black Mtn: middle and bottom, then add Grassy to Sycamore. (I've done Blk Mtn Upper a few years ago but I wasn't in good enough shape to enjoy it, the downs are awesome, the climbs and hikes are grewsome) Haven't ridden the new middle yet but it should be shear joy!

2. Daniels Ridge: some reason I just love this trail, extend this by climbing Cove creek.

Over the years I usually try something new (Bennett Gap was the latest) and all have been a great adventure. I just keep going back to those, my comfort rides.

PS. Just did a week in NWA (the first day the land border opened) what a blast Coler, Slaughter Pen, Eureka Springs, and new this time Devil's Den and Mt. Nemo.......Wow what a destination area!!! Well done NWA!!
Fantastic! Thank you. I hadn't seen the Freehub route yet. Definitely will add that one. Looks like there is a parking area right by the Wilkie and Corn Mill Shoals trails. Is that where you park for this?

Black Mountain is one that I'm very much looking forward to. I don't fully understand what parts have been rerouted and/or reworked recently but should be a blast regardless. I volunteer with our local trails advocacy group doing maintenance, reroutes, repairs, armoring, and even building some new trails (hand cut), so I'm definitely interested in seeing what's been done. Always good to get ideas from others, especially since Pisgah seems to be very similar to the trails I ride and work on the most.

That's awesome you've been in this area. Great to get perspective from someone who's ridden both areas but doesn't live at either. The trails I ride the most are Kessler Mountain and Centennial Park but I love Devil's Den and it's closer to me than Slaughter Pen. If I had to pick a single favorite system it would be Nebo. So much fun. Wish it was a little closer.

I'm not as seasoned as you (turn 50 this week) and haven't ridden MTB but maybe 8 years and only in the last couple have gotten more serious about improving my skills. Have been learning to jump, do drops and handle very technical terrain. Even did enduro racing this summer. I've had a number of rough spots (crashes, including this week) but I freakin' love it. Wish I had started 20 years ago.

I rode Colorado (Salida, Breckenridge) this summer, now going to WNC. Hoping to do Utah next year.
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Looks like there is a parking area right by the Wilkie and Corn Mill Shoals trails. Is that where you park for this?
Yup, that's right. It's better, to me, to ride that area then change parking spots to the next if you're doing two that day.

Sounds like you've got the same bug that I've got! Travel, ride something new, travel some more! My wife still works, I'm retired so I like to take off for 2-3 weeks (in my van, drinking IPA's at the hub! ((although it's only a dodge caravan :cautious:)))
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Any comments on how some of this stuff is riding now?

I'm going to be near Forest City spending time with my folks for 6 to 10 weeks. My goal mainly is to get back in shape as I don't ride out here in Oregon when it starts raining.

My conundrum at the moment is whether to bring my road bike with me or not. Would I be able to reliably get a workout ride in on trail every 3 days or so? Is it generally safe road riding around Rutherford county?

Thanks for any insight on the matter.

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Any comments on how some of this stuff is riding now?

I'm going to be near Forest City spending time with my folks for 6 to 10 weeks. My goal mainly is to get back in shape as I don't ride out here in Oregon when it starts raining.

My conundrum at the moment is whether to bring my road bike with me or not. Would I be able to reliably get a workout ride in on trail every 3 days or so? Is it generally safe road riding around Rutherford county?

Thanks for any insight on the matter.

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been some cruddy conditions lately. couple bouts of snow (some of it good amounts) and some pretty cold temps have had the overnight freeze game in pretty hard, but also plenty of sun and above-freezing daytime temps making for lots of melt. higher elevations are still under fairly deep snow. Dupont singletrack has been closed for quite awhile because of ice and because of freeze/thaw conditions, though the doubletrack is still open. It's starting to warm back up (hopefully for awhile now), so it'll be thaw slop for a bit.

Rutherford County is lower and warmer and didn't get as much of the cold/frozen stuff as we did higher up. Don't know what the road riding is like that way. You should at least be able to find some gravel somewhere if you want to avoid pavement.
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Cool beans, Harold, thanks for the Intel. Very helpful. I'll bring my road riding stuff out there for sure. If I don't want it for the rest of my journey I'll just ship it back to Oregon. I'm sure I can find a satisfactory route by my folks place to spin.

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Cool beans, Harold, thanks for the Intel. Very helpful. I'll bring my road riding stuff out there for sure. If I don't want it for the rest of my journey I'll just ship it back to Oregon. I'm sure I can find a satisfactory route by my folks place to spin.

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There's plenty of good road/gravel routes just east of Forest City in the Tryon area. Even more if you head further to Saluda. I'm more familiar with Saluda routes than Tryon stuff, but internet or FB search will turn up some stuff. Also check out www.weeklyrides.com. This has some routes for that area.

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You can also head to Pleasant Ridge County Park off HWY 11 in SC. This will be slightly closer than Dupont and is currently good to go. Green River Game Lands is right off 26 as well, but that's a pretty steep place. If you're not fit, you'll suffer for sure.

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Thanks Timothy, appreciate it!

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